Click on the links below to find out what the 2011 cohort thought of their Otak2 experience!
Tell me a little bit about yourself! (School, major, interning where and what you do, career path planned)
I’m the only one from New Zealand in this cohort. I’m studying at Victoria University of Wellington, majoring in Political Science & International Relations. I am currently interning at Voice of the Children (2 more weeks to go!
) It’s basically a children’s rights advocacy group. I’m currently writing up a report on issues concerning the adoption process in Malaysia for them. In terms of career path, I haven’t really planned anything as of yet, but I’m keen to gain some experience from the corporate sector before I make up my mind on which area of work I should embark on. Has this internship forwarded/altered your career plans in anyway? If so, how?
To an extent yes. The various corporate events exposed me to what it’s like to work in those companies and I will seriously consider applying to some of those corporate partners when I graduate. The networking sessions allowed me and all the other interns to connect with industry leaders in a way which we could not have otherwise. Thanks to the program, I now have a clearer picture of the various organisations that operate in Malaysia and the opportunities they offer to young graduates. I realised that it’s not so bad coming back to Malaysia to begin my career after all.
Has this program altered your world view/perspective in anyway, and how?
Yes. The program exposed me to various facets of the economy and how each sector is important in reinforcing one another. Listening to the various guest speakers share about their experiences both in a professional and a personal sense has also opened my eyes to new ideas and consider career paths that I would never have given a second thought before. I can safely say that I am much more open to other viewpoints than before…partly due to the zany nature of many of the interns as well. I have met personalities which I would have never crossed paths with had I not joined the program, and I am grateful for that.
What was your favourite and least favourite event? Why?
It’s hard to say. I have a couple of favourites…in terms of food and dining…I have to say Taylors!! haha. In terms of sheer excitement…the visit to TCTL Shipyard!! As far as networking and career opportunities offered, BCG and Citibank take the cake. Personally I don’t really have a least favourite event. All of them were relevant and I think it would be unfair to claim that any one of the events were not interesting and informative to a certain extent.
What made your particular internship stand out from the rest?
The fact that I could go in to work at 10 am and choose to work from home on certain days! In fact, I’m answering these interview questions from home!
What was the most difficult thing about the program/internship, and did you overcome it?
The intensive schedule! At its height, we had to attend after-work networking sessions 3-4 days out of 5 working days and these events could last right up to 11 pm! And this does not include the Fridays and Saturdays at YMCA. Over time though, I really enjoyed the weekends together with the other interns, it was as much fun as it was tiring. That’s how most of us managed to cope with the schedule; the strong relationships built over the course of 6 weeks helped us all sail through the program.
Best piece of advice given to you during the program?
Many! However the thing I will always remember from the program are Anand’s honest speeches on how it’s OK to develop your career for selfish reasons, because at the end of the day personal satisfaction is the most important aspect to a fulfilling career in any sector you choose to work in.
What is one thing you would change about the program?
Adding more fun events! I know we interns had a lot of fun throughout the program, but I think a structured programme incorporating fun activities such as a teambuilding camp would be much better than informally organising a paintball match on the last weekend for example. More non-work related events would be welcomed in the future!
Has the internship made you likelier to come back to Malaysia to work? If so/no, why? Do you think that you can truly make a difference to Malaysia from abroad?
It definitely has. Before this internship, I would not have given serious thought on coming back to Malaysia. But as I mentioned earlier, the various corporate events have exposed me to some really interesting stuff that some companies do here. In particular, organisations like Maxis, Air Asia and Citibank caught my eye and I will definitely think of coming back to work in organisations such as these in the near future.
Any advice for future Otak-Otak interns?
Take the plunge! It’s worth it! You will learn a lot from this program. Even if your internship is not what you expected, you will still gain heaps from the networking sessions and interacting with the other interns!
If you had to choose a theme song for your Otak experience, what would it be?
YMCA by the Village People! On a side note, I’m actually quite surprised no one actually thought about this song during our weekend sessions at YMCA!
How did you find out about Otak2?
Tricia Yeoh’s tweet.
What were the most eventful moments in the programme?
The weekends! All the 6 weekends we spent playing Mafia, Monopoly Deal or just talking to one another was just the best thing in Otak2! Most of us slept around 3am every weekend.
Did the program meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
Yes. Yes, because the 41 ++ of us got to know each other, and that we got to know about each other’s companies, through the official events and the unofficial “digging” sessions when we talk to each other about our internships.
Which was the best event?
The CPPS panel! The discussion was pretty good overall and listening to different perspectives on the same subject made the session “wholesome”.
The 1st batch of Otaks are done and over with. What’s in store for the world?
In the words of Buzz Lightyear: “To infinity, and BEYOND!”
On a more serious note: I’m not too sure what’s in store for the world, but I know we’ll be rocking it!
What is your biggest challenge so far (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today, or for the future)?
Getting things to be the way I want it!
As an Otak, describe your experience in BFM format.
Bold and Friendly Mafiosos
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Ten Years After’s “I’d Love to Change the World”. The title explains itself, the song is bad ass, and it’s the blues. Need I say more?
Any advice to future Otaks?
Enjoy the weekends and the events hosts by the various organizations because 6 weeks is only
Why did you decide to join Otak2?
It was a pioneer programme and I found the concept interesting – bringing Malaysian university students back to Malaysia to show them that there was indeed a lot that could be done in Malaysia.
What was your favourite event and why?
At the risk of sounding biased – the IDEAS event where we had a debate/discussion about free markets in Malaysia. Understanding the role the government plays in Malaysia’s economy and how that affects opportunities for entrepreneurship and indirectly, the democratic process, is something quite important and I think everyone should know about it with some depth.
Were you able to explore your potential talents and passion through Otak2? Why or why not?
Definitely – I did lots of interesting research at IDEAS and wrote articles – I like reading and writing. I also took part in roundtables and workshops and learnt from others in the policymaking/civil society scene in Malaysia. In addition, I like meeting interesting people and talking to them – there was no shortage amongst my peers in the Otak2 programme!
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
I think Anand’s advice resonated best with me – be honest with what you want in life. In particular, don’t say that you want to solve world hunger in public, while in private, you really want a Ferrari! While caring about society and doing charitable works are desirable, having a corporate career need not be at odds with those.
Were you ever challenged to reconsider your opinions and views, either during one of the program events, or by your fellow interns or the Otak2 founders? Explain.
I interned at a classical liberal think tank, and most of us believe in small government – but after some debates about minimum wage (which, across many countries, seems to be a good thing empirically) and helping the poor, I realised in particular that the government must intervene to provide a framework for private charities to help the poor – small government does not mean no intervention – it can also mean the right sort of intervention. The government itself, in fact, can act like a private charity, if well-structured – it’s not impossible. I am centre-right, not libertarian – I believe quite a bit in market-based solutions to public policy problems, but we have to see the evidence that comes from behavioural economics on whether all markets self-regulate effectively, and so on. Ads and marketing also distort demand by consumers, and we have to consider that.
Use one word or phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Ecstasy!
Have your career plans changed since Otak2? How and why?
Not really – I still intend to work in finance/markets since I like straight-from-the-gut thinking and the fast nature of markets. Yet, I have a more balanced view of other careers and may consider those as well, such as consulting.
If the company in which you interned was in a field unrelated to your course of study, how did you feel about this difference?
I don’t feel strongly about the difference, since I try to read widely and cover analytical pieces in the social sciences in my readings. I also like debates!
Were you able to transfer skills from your academic background to your workplace?
Not really, since my skills were not relevant, other than describing how mathematical models could be dangerous to high finance.
Has Otak2 made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
Somewhat – but in any case I will be back in Malaysia to work since I have a scholarship bond to serve!
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
None I can think of.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Grab this opportunity – it is a real eye-opener!
Congratulations on making it through the program. What’s next for you?
Life goes on as usual – I am on to my third year of university, wiser and fresher!
How did you find out about Otak2?
I literally stumbled onto it online.
How has the program changed you?
For one, my perspective on the corporate world has broadened considerably. Prior to joining Otak-Otak, I’ve never given much thought to joining the corporate world as I didn’t have much passion for it and now, it is a field that I am considering to join. On top of that, the experiences I’ve gained through my internship and corporate events have also enriched my own experience and notion of the working world and its culture.
The Most Eventful moment in Otak2?
The most eventful moment would definitely be all of us playing Mafia in YMCA till the wee hours of the morning.
Name 1 regret you had in Otak2. What would you do if the same thing occurs again in the future?
Not joining much of the till-the-wee-hours-games. I would be a little more self-sacrificing in forgoing sleep and joining the rest in playing games.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
Keeran from Teach For Malaysia gave a good advice. He said that one should always strive to be excel and be the best. One should never be just mediocre.
Which was the best event?
The best event to me was the event that CPPS hosted. It was a great evening to just discuss political matters that are close to our hearts and have an actual discussion with people of different perspectives.
The first batch of Otaks are done and over with. What’s in store for the world?
Honestly, I don’t know.
If you were allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Good Life by One Republic. As I progressed into the internship, I realised that it couldn’t get anything better than that.
What’s your sagely advice to future Otaks?
Just be yourself and learn as much as you can during the internship months. Most important of all, make sure you have the fun of your life!
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
A longer period of sharing of accommodation
Where did you intern at and what was your role?
I interned with the Strategic & Corporate Development office of Sunway Group. While there, I assisted with a strategic position review of Sunway’s core businesses, specifically its property division. I also collaborated with the Product Innovation department on research pertaining to the product mix of a sizeable land parcel.
Use five words to describe your internship at the company.
Hate. 5. Word. Exercises.
Do you see a future for yourself in the industry that you’ve interned in and why?
Yes. Growing up, I’ve always been fond of city-builder computer games. Property developers do pretty much the same thing. There is a sense of satisfaction in being able to say that at the end of the day, you had a hand in building someone’s home or sell someone their first home or create an enriching living environment.
Has the programme changed you in anyways and if yes, how?
Like many youth of my generation, I went into the program fixated on opportunities with brand-name MNCs within industries such as consulting and finance. But I am exceedingly glad that I managed to gain exposure not just to the operations of a company within a completely different industry but also a company that is through-and-through local and home-grown. My experience is affirmation of the magnificent and great things that local ideas and businesses can achieve. It has provided me with a clear success story that is born of Malaysian ingenuity. There are loads of pre-conceived notions of what job prospects are like within local companies –some of which are true, some of which aren’t. But too many Malaysians accept such claims at face value –something that I have been guilty of. At the very least –however limited my experience may be- I can say that I’ve worked for a local company and can attest to the veracity –or otherwise- of these claims.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
I don’t allow myself embarrassing moments. I did get a big kick out of our visit to the shipyard in Klang where we saw the ship-building operations of TCTL.
Best event or hangout moment and why?
Tie between soliciting cash for charity at a petrol station in Brickfields and paintballing in Gombak. Play really offers unfettered access to the true characteristics of people and you really get to know your friends for who they are.
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today) and have you overcome that?
Finding a good balance between work, Otak2 and personal commitments over the entire internship period. With so many –often conflicting- demands upon my schedule, it was hard to make everyone –including myself- happy. Sacrifice is inevitable. Figuring out priorities is paramount. But I also discovered that striking a reasonable work-life balance isn’t necessarily impossible.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Raise Your Weapon (Madeon Extended Remix) – Deadmau5. This is a summer defining tune and that summer happens to be this one. Otherwise, my choice has nothing to do with the program.
Use a phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
“When you’re rich and famous, please don’t forget me, ok?”
Amongst your mentor/Otak2 founders/colleagues, who have you learned the most from and why?
Everyone within my team at Sunway: Sarena Cheah, Wan Nadiah and Joshua Ooi. These individuals represent that rare breed of intellectual firepower and genuine humility. I would have no issues with hanging out with them outside of work –which I very often do. I think it’s a testament to their warm personalities that I felt like a part of the team from my first day.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Roshan Thiran of Leaderonomics said that too many Malaysians like to wash their hands clean when confronted with workplace ethical dilemmas, resorting to anonymous tip-offs instead of approaching company management with their concerns. In his view, this tendency is tantamount to shifting the moral burden onto another party instead of proactively seeing that what you believe to be the right course of action is implemented.
In an ideal world, everyone would have the courage to stand for the strength of their beliefs regardless of the consequences. It’s an impossible standard to meet: in most cases, people learn to pick their fights carefully. Nonetheless the standard is one that is worthwhile aspiring towards.
Has your career plan changed since being a part of this internship?
Not at the fundamental –and most important- levels.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
Didn’t realize the world needed changing; its inhabitants, perhaps, but surely not the world itself.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
I have come to realize that people like to talk about working abroad upon graduation versus working locally as if these are terms that are in opposition. The rhetoric is framed in a manner such as to suggest that there is a right and wrong path –or at the very least, one that is more noble and altruistic. My opinion is that this ‘dichotomy’ is a false one. I believe that under the most ideal of conditions, the two outcomes are outcomes of pure choice. However, in most situations it is a matter of circumstance –many beyond one’s control- whether one ends up at home or abroad. Your service to any community of your choosing is dictated by your intent and the actions you take upon that conviction; not your geographical location.
Tell me a little bit about yourself! (School, major, career plans etc.)
Hi, I’m Anis Zafirah Sipal Anuwar! I’m going into the final year of MEng Chemical Engineering course at Queen’s University Belfast in Northern Ireland. I’m looking forward to my graduation next year and am really excited to start my career as a young chemical engineer and get my chartered status in the next coming years.
Have these career plans altered since coming to Otak-Otak, and if yes/no, why and how? Also, did the program align with your career plans?
I was attached to intern at a very good local engineering company known as Premium-RE. I had always wanted to be a chemical engineer and was looking forward to gain technical and managerial skills in engineering field over the summer. I used to work in UK before but in nothing that was really related to the course that I’m studying right now. I’m so fortunate that Premium-RE has given me a really in-depth exposure during my internship. I worked closely with the engineering team at Premium-RE where I was involved in most of the meetings and site visits for the commencement of the first bio-oil plant in the world which uses palm oil waste as the feedstock. The whole internship experience was fantastic; I was given the opportunity to travel and meet clients. Along the way, I’ve learnt so many things that was not even taught in the syllabus in a typical engineering curriculum. I appreciate that this internship trained me to adapt to new things and understand more about the real process and machineries that take place in a real plant. Otak2 has indeed enriched me with lots of transferable skills and invaluable experience which align with my career plans.
What was one of your most memorable moments about the program?
There were so many memorable things about Otak2 but the most apparent one was during our visit to Royal Selangor in Setapak. My team won the jelly making competition and we were entitled to a free workshop session at the Royal Selangor School of Hard Knocks. I made a pewter bowl out of a piece of plain pewter sheet and engraved my name on it. It was a really a splendid experience where I learnt to appreciate artwork. At the end of the session each one of us was awarded with a certificate from the School of Hard Knocks! Awesome!
Describe your internship experience in three adjectives!
Marvellous. Fantastic. Cool
Did you feel like the program lived up to your experience and what was advertised? Please elaborate.
When I read the advertisement for the first time, I could only imagine it as a mere internship with a hectic array of leadership workshops and social events. Nonetheless, as the weeks went by I was proven wrong because Otak2 had in fact given me more than that I could expect. The program was so comprehensive that I had actually learnt and experienced more than I thought. I used to be a very technical person with strong interest in engineering and science-related matter but ever since I met the Otak2 interns and every person who is involved with the program, I could say that I’m now like a new born butterfly that just burst out of my own cocoon and aims to fly really high. I’ve learnt so many things from each other in Otak2, be it politics, economics, business, finance, humanity, social enterprise , you name it, all this wholesome knowledge and experiences are going to be useful for me, if not now in the future.
Which was your favourite and least favourite event and why?
I really love the Start-up session which was held at the MindValley office. I had never felt so close to people I just met and was really inspired listening to the stories from people with different walks of life. At the end of the session, I felt really inspired and learnt so much lessons of life for them.
What is the best and worst thing about this internship?
The best thing about this internship is the PEOPLE. Everyone in the program is really nice and exciting. The worst thing is the duration of the internship itself. 2 months may sound pretty long on paper but now I feel like as if I’d started this internship just 2 weeks ago
What was one piece of advice that really stuck with you from the program and why?
I can’t seem to recall one exactly, but throughout the program , I’ve learnt that every person is unique and each one of us can make a difference in many different ways just like Gandhi’s saying You must be the change u want to see in the world. Yup, you and I can make change too!
Is there anything you would change about the program?
So far, I’m satisfied with the program structure. But to add more spice into the program perhaps Otak2 could add outdoor teambuilding activities such as white water rafting.
Has this program made it likelier for you to come back to work in Malaysia?
Yes, absolutely
How were you before Otak2 and how has the programme changed you?
I honestly have not put so much hope on Malaysia and its dream of achieving the developed country status by 2020, but after meeting outstanding interns in Otak2, it changed my perception by 360 degrees. The Malaysian dream is not too far off after all. Heck, we might even be better off than the emerging market countries. Something that we might not realise is that we have diversity, a certain way of thinking, and perspective. Embracing it is the key to our success as a nation and I could see that evidently with how AirAsia could grow as the best low cost airline in the world.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
Having to act as Migel de Marcello, a fisherman and also an irresponsible father/husband to 3 children in a short skit as part of Voice of Children’s activity. Yelling in disagreement with my wife in the skit for not being able to feed the family and an ill son. However, the whole experience in acting has been rewarding in the sense that it made all of us realise that there are still many unfortunate families out there whom we have never come across in every day to day life.
Did the programme meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
To some extend yes, maybe not much on the work experience in the company that I was assigned to. I have a burning desire of having to be able to lead a huge company in the future and I would not say it’s the company’s fault because I am a unique person in the sense that I could not sit down in a same place for too long. I have gotten bored to death.
Name one of your regrets throughout Otak2 and what have you done to make yourself feel better?
Frankly speaking, I have no regrets at all. I have a principle where I would not look back and rethink that I could have done things differently. I like to make the most out of the situation and circumstances at that point of time. Keep looking forward and how to manoeuvre from there onwards.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
I have been fortunate enough to have Christopher Tock as my mentor, a serial entrepreneur like myself. Co-founder of YCM, Started up MSLS and a whole lot more. When we first met in Devi’s, it’s like love at first sight because we instantly clicked. He is one of a kind, as I could sit down for hours talking about what is ‘the next big thing’ in the business world. He has the passion and enthusiasm to turn everything he touches into gold.
I would most certainly have him as one of my business partners in the near future. He is an awesome lad.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Mr. Tony Fernandes is the first person that popped up in my mind. I did not have the opportunity to have a deep conversation with him, as he just stopped by in the office for a while before flying off to South Korea. “Be HUNGRY” was the simple sentence that came out of his mouth. It defines everything on how to be a successful entrepreneur. By the time you stop being hungry, do not ever think of continuing your business or even think of starting one. He advices, “Believe the unbelievable, dream the impossible and never say ‘no’ for an answer.”
Best event or hangout moment and why?
There are a lot to pick from, really. The best one that inspired me would be from the start-up session with Aeste, Premium RE and MyTeksi at the MindValley office. It’s wonderful to see fellow Malaysians who are passionate in their current ventures in start-ups, while leaving behind lucrative fixed income job in big firms to pursue their dreams in making a contribution to the society.
We have 1 more week before we officially wrap up, so how are you planning to make an impact before it’s over?
I am leaving a week earlier than everyone else in pursuing my Management and Entrepreneurship module in Peking University, Beijing. I hope that I have inspired all the interns, as much as they have inspired me. Malaysia needs us all to contribute to the development, not necessarily in the land of Peninsular or Borneo. We could contribute with equal impact elsewhere in the fast moving and globalised world.
Use one word or one phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Expectational extraordinary!
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today)?
Living in a backpacker’s place for the whole period of internship with AirAsia has taught me a lot on how to live independently without the assistance of family and friends. In addition to that, having to travel at least three hours back and forth from work every day is also a challenge. The time that I have wasted in the journey where I could have used the same period of time to do something else more productive and significant to myself and also the people around me. Time is extremely invaluable to me.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
‘Here in My Home’ by Malaysian Artistes for Unity, a song of hope and racial unity. It has the whole “the best place to be is still in Malaysia”, it gives me goose bumps listening to the song. Also, it goes back to my first point where we should be embracing ourselves for our differences and uniqueness.
Looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion?
I have always been passionate about entrepreneurship from day one, my passion for it has been unshaken. Perhaps, the Otak2 program has strengthened it. From my perspective, there is just so much going on with the politics in this country until Malaysians have gotten tired of it. The difficult thing is that we as the citizens could only make a significant change in every five years. People often say we should give the opposition an opportunity to run the country, but what if they are the same as the current government? Are we going to switch back to the current government? How long would that take? We would probably surpass 2020 by then. Then what? Entrepreneurship is the answer, there is always a market for business services or products if the government is not providing it. A private sector-driven economy is the answer, and at the current state, it is not enough.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
I believe that changes need to be done in my country first. I have a vision of leading a truly global enterprise in Malaysia. If I could change the world, I would be changing Malaysia in the process. To me, Malaysia is the next big thing. With my vast knowledge and experience in the market, I could make the first step here and be able to expand to different countries worldwide. My next step is to operate my own consulting firm with a highly talented partner from the Otak2 programme.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
You have got to prove that you are substantially extraordinary enough to be part of the group. We are here to change the world. Love whatever you are doing. Live up to your passion, stay true to your philosophy and always stay HUNGRY.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
There has been a rumour that there might be an increase in the number of interns from 40 to 100. I believe that the intention is right but I disagree entirely on the idea. To me, 50 is the ideal number to create the ‘cosiness’ among the interns in the group. We got that right in the inaugural programme, as I could feel it myself. It is the first time I have ever been this close to a group of amazing people. I am not a big fan of a ‘final club’, but exclusivity is important as well in order to uphold the highest standard of the group as the leadership programme for the best 50 interns in the world.
How did you find out about Otak2?
From Recom and Chen Chow.
Did the program meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
Yes, as I’ve undergone a humbling experience as I am motivated by the other interns who have done so much more than what I am doing. And this has enabled me to better plan for my undertakings next year.
Name 1 regret you had in Otak2. What would you do if the same thing occurs again in the future?
I never had the opportunity to really communicate with most of the other interns/ mentors as I needed to work on the other competitions/ pitching for the social enterprise that I am in. Given a chance, I wish that I could possibly have spent more time with each of the interns/ mentors.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
Anthony Tan, I think. Whatever you do, remember that you will pass down the skeleton to your future generation, especially the bad ones.
Best event?
The Social Enterprise panel with Tandem Fund and Lumier. I am inspired by how noble intention can inspire an individual/organization to do good just for society, even if it means minimal/no profits for the organization.
1st batch of Otaks are done and over with. What’s in store?
For me, I plan to work on the skills that I am lacking in. I will leave it open ended as the Otaks 1 will know what I am up to the next time we have a gathering, say in a year’s time.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
The world’s greatest?
How were you inspired during this 2 month stint?
How going to a local university will still put you on par with foreign graduates, as well as guiding me in making the most out of my final year in the university.
What’s your sagely advice to future Otaks?
No doubt the program is tiring but when you attend all the events, you will make the most of the 6 weeks.
How were you before Otak2 and how has the program changed you?
I was 19+. Now I am 19+ and then some – grown in more ways than simply maturing with age. I think I’m more hopeful for the future of the country, and also a lot more appreciative of people in general, of the ideas and energy and passion they can have, and of how those things inspire other people in turn.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
Impromptu busking on the streets of Brickfields to raise money for our team in a team-building event run by Talent2 – it was definitely an ‘eventful’ moment. I had doubts about our ability to persuade people to part with their money for our cause (which I was not comfortable with myself, since we were not even told where the money would be going to in the end, and as such it would have been insincere to tell people that it was for charity), but my amazing teammates pulled it off. They went up to people and persuaded them one-on-one to donate; they unabashedly beat buckets and sang ‘Rasa Sayang’ at the top of their voices. They were undeterred even when a policeman approached us to ask us what we were doing. It was an exhilarating 20 minutes.
Did the program meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
It exceeded it tremendously in ways that I never expected it to – the after-work events, which on paper seemed like a huge burden (3-4 times during the weekdays? Madness!), turned out to be much more informative, eye-opening, and in some cases, fun. Especially with the group of interns in this cohort.
Name one of your regrets throughout Otak2 and what have you done to make yourself feel better?
Spending hours sitting in a grey cubicle at work wondering what and how palatable the goals of the company I was interning at was to me, and if it made sense to be wondering that at all. However, I had the opportunity to talk to one of the company’s directors about where he saw the company heading in the future, and how he proposed to tackle some of the issues regarding their workforce that I raised. While it may not have made me “feel better”, I definitely appreciated the chance to even have that candid discussion.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
A take-away lesson from them: aim to do stuff, then actually do it.
Name a person or group of people you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
The 4-person panel at the Start-up event, whose advice I haphazardly wrote down and that I reproduce exactly here:
“Risk appetite Making mistakes Safeguarding self Creating ownership Make the best decision for yourself at that point in time What is your dream Don’t let anyone guilt you into doing anything Healthy cynicism Support network”
The entire panel really resonated with me and what I believe to be my priorities in life: to be able to do things that I love, and not in service of a larger company or corporation or in the pursuit of monetary reward, but that fulfill a personal goal or societal need.
Best event or hangout moment and why?
Too many to pick from. I enjoyed the mafia sessions; the late night conversations while sprawling half-asleep on beds and carpeted floors; the things I learnt from the short conversations we had while car-pooling to/fro events and houses. The startup event also resonated very much with me – definitely to a greater extent than the overly corporate ones.
Use one word or one phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Unexpectedly but deservedly impactful.
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2
until today)?
Figuring out what I’ll do after the programme so that what I’ve learned doesn’t go to waste, and finding ways to reconcile what makes me happy to do with what I think I should be doing to contribute to society.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Lupe Fiasco’s ‘The Show Goes On’. Terribly mainstream, but it is uplifting, and could be taken to mean that we’ll keep on learning and growing and making an impact long after we’ve officially left the programme, in our various capacities and communities: as a student or employee, leader or follower, creator or consumer.
Plus, we sang it during our karaoke session.
By looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion?
I’m disappointed that there wasn’t any opportunity to engage with visual artists during the corporate partner events (if you consider PopTeeVee as a media group instead of performing arts), but I think it’s understandable that most companies simply don’t find themselves ever needing to talk about visual or the creative arts at all if it isn’t directly related to what they do.
I suppose you could stretch the definition of illustration to include the 2×2 matrices and uncountable graphs we were presented with.
I have seen opportunities for bringing art into or using it to change various fields and industries, however. Pursuing those opportunities would be very interesting.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
One never knows the answer to the first question. But I know what I’ll do next – take what I’ve learnt from the programme and from the people I’ve met, and put it to use in the communities I’ll be going back to: Brown, the city of Providence, and Malaysia in the future.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Quoting Margaret Wheatley: “Talk to people you know. Talk to people you don’t know. Talk to people you never talk to.”
The people were, at least for me, the best part of the programme.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
Get more creative arts people involved, for both the interns and corporate partners! As much as I appreciate learning about politics and economics and finance, I wish there were more people with whom I could say things like “James Jean!” and not receive polite stares in return.
I think it’s worth noting and applauding, however, that the Otak2 organizers have already heavily sought feedback from this year’s cohort in shaping the next one’s.
How were you before Otak2 and how has the program changed you?
Unlike most of the others in this program, I never lived in Malaysia. I grew up as a bit of a nomad, having lived in 5 countries by the summer of 2011. I came back to Malaysia every summer to visit family, but never really felt like a local or knew anyone outside of the family until I did Otak-Otak! I’ve learned so much about Malaysia – what it stands for, why its people love it so much – and I truly believe it can be a place for change. For me, it already has been.
Did the program meet your expectations? Explain why or why not.
I was expecting a good internship experience, but I got so much more: an acceptance into the Malaysian community I had never been a part of, even though I can’t speak Malay and I never lived here. It really opened my mind to all the opportunities that exist here in Malaysia.
What was your favorite part of your internship?
I really appreciated being taken seriously but being allowed to learn through edits and feedback at the same time.
What was your favorite part of the Otak-Otak program?
I love how seamlessly the program can transition from serious talks about the role we play in the future of Malaysia to laughter-filled laser tag outings, and I love that I can be my goofy self around the other interns.
Describe your internship experience in three adjectives.
Unexpected, adventurous, comfortable
What would you say is the focus of the program and do you feel that this it achieved this?
I think the focus of the program was network-building, which was definitely achieved. I feel very at home with the other interns, and I’m definitely planning on staying in touch, visiting them or traveling with them in the future!
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be?
Something that everyone sings along shamelessly to.
Has this internship made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
Yes, a little. I’ve always known that I want to live in many places around the world, but this summer made me consider Malaysia much more seriously than I did before.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
They inspire me just by how much they care. Also, they’re all easy to relate to because they go through the same struggles and ask the same questions that we do, and I think we all learned a lot by looking at the decisions they made and hearing about why they made those decisions.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Go to all the outings, even if you don’t think they’ll be fun. Stay at the YMCA, and stay up until 4am. Get ready to laugh and to learn.
Where did you intern at and what was your role?
I did my internship at the new and beautiful Taylor’s Lakeside Campus. I was the customer service assistant for the International Office. I dealt with international students’ visa, insurance, and airport pickup issues.
Use five words to describe your internship at the company.
Fresh, relationships, behavioral, routine, and efficiency.
Do you see a future for yourself in the industry that you’ve interned in and why?
Not immediately, because I would like to measure my full potential and capabilities in a larger organization that allows me to push further.
Has the programme changed you in anyways and if yes, how?
Tremendously. I started thinking about the issues that were brought up during the events’ discussions in an in-depth manner. Before joining the program, I used to listen and accept most of the facts that were presented to me, but now, I started bringing up the issues to my housemates and friends to gather more opinions and the other side of the stories.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
I got to know this new term called ‘sarung party girl’, as introduced by Adeliyn and Emile. When they first mentioned it, I heard ‘sawah padi girl’ and they laughed at me. When they mentioned it again, I heard ‘sarung pati girl’, so it took me 3 trials before getting it right. They wanted to put it up on the wall of quotes, thankfully, that didn’t happen.
Best event or hangout moment and why?
Monopoly Deal and mafia nights FTW!!! Thanks to Philip, I got hooked on Monopoly Deal, it’s my favorite game now! Although we had to sleep superbly late because of these games, it’s all worth it. These times reminded me of my secondary school indoor camps.
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today) and have you overcome that?
I would say my parents, because I was supposed to spend time looking for jobs instead of joining Otak2. I had to convince them how much I could gain from this program and how Otak2 is a platform for me to look for a job due to the exposure that we could gain from visiting different range of companies.
What is your biggest take away from the programme?
Based on what I have heard from the CEOs, mentors, and panel interviewers’ speeches, I noticed that there is one common theme: passion. After listening to them, I am keen on finding a job that I would enjoy waking up for. I do not know what’s my passion at the moment, but I’m determined to find it, as Datuk Loy from Taylor’s said that some found their passion at a young age, but for some, it takes longer.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Green Day’s Best Time of Our Lives [It’s something unpredictable, but in the end is right, I hope you had the time of your life]. Otak2 is indeed an unpredictable program before we joined, but I’m sure that we all made the right choice to be a part of it. Needless to say, we all had the time of our lives.
Use a phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
It’s legen…..wait for it………………..dary! Sorry, I’m a huge fan of Barney from How I Met Your Mother.
Amongst your mentor/Otak2 founders/colleagues, who have you learned the most from and why?
I would have to say Anand. He has been talking to me about job search and he recommended jobs that I might be interested in. It helps to seek advice from him, as he has a vast working experience.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
This is not really an advice, but more like words of inspiration – Keeran from Teach for Malaysia spoke about giving and why it is fulfilling to get involved in non-profit. After visiting Teach for Malaysia, I have decided to make non-profit my after-retirement project.
Has your career plan changed since being a part of this internship?
I do not really have a career plan, but the internship/Otak2 have guided me in finding out what I might like and what I do not like.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
I think that I will start changing the world in baby steps, as I’ve learned that many industries in Malaysia are still new and growing. There are many things that I still have to learn about Malaysia, therefore rushing to change the world is not the way to go. For me, coming home to serve the country is my first baby step, and we’ll see where it will lead me to.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Please apply and try your very best to get into Otak2, it’ll be one of your best, if not, the BEST summer. Be daring, and be prepared to explore, as you’ll never know what awaits you until you join Otak2!
How were you before Otak2 and how has the programme changed you?
When Joyce said to us “I hope that all of you will be close friends after the programme”, I thought to myself, “No way!” I admit that I am quick to judge and being in Otak2 has made me realise how giving people a chance could be so rewarding in so many ways. It showed me a lot of areas of grey, and how quickly those shades could change.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
There was no single one moment, but how we progressively became closer to each other in such a short span of time was amazing.
Name one of your regrets throughout Otak2 and what have you done to make yourself feel better?
No regrets, just love.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
They allowed us to grow in our own capacities and were not dogmatic, and I think that made all the difference. My mentor, if could be summed up, would carry the weight of the words he said to me “I’ll always have your best interest at heart”.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Hui Ling, the co-founder of MyTeksi. When she said that the smart answer to a lot of things is “it depends” and that one can only make the best decision for oneself at any given point in time. It reminded me of what one of my best friends said to me three years ago, “Do your best, God will do the rest”. Having one year left to make important-adult-decisions for myself, reminding myself of that before I get baby-freak-outs help.
Best event or hangout moment and why?
YMCA weekend, because you will never know what you are going to do next (which is why I end up packing for a week for the two nights that we are there).
Use one word or one phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Awesomer than any awesomest fest.
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today)?
Waking up on Saturday mornings.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Graduation by Vitamin C, because I can’t help but wonder what it will be like when we turn 25.
Why did you decide to join Otak2?
I was drawn by the concept of the program. It was a great opportunity to meet incredibly bright people and experience a worthwhile internship. I also wanted to spend my summer in Malaysia, having been away for 9 months.
What was your favourite event and why?
I don’t particularly have a favourite event. I learned a lot from each event and every one of them exposed me to something new. If I had to pick an event which stood out for me though, it would be the talk on social enterprise. This is purely because I have always had an interest in this sector. It was great to have passionate people from the sector sharing their insights and experiences.
Were you able to explore your potential talents and passion through Otak2? Why or why not?
Most definitely. My internship with Maxis challenged me continuously. As part of the Network Optimisation Team, I was able to explore my passion for problem solving as the department dealt with creative solutions for various unique tasks. It was also great to be in an environment where everyone was genuinely passionate about technology.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
I remember after the start-up event, something that really stuck with me was the reminder to do what I truly want in life. There was mention about not being afraid to make mistakes and also to think about what you want to achieve and what’s best for yourself to progress towards that aim. It did not matter what people thought or if it was conventional. I didn’t really name 1 person but I think this message was collectively conveyed by the panel and it has stayed on with me even after the program.
Were you ever challenged to reconsider your opinions and views, either during one of the program events, or by your fellow interns or the Otak2 founders? Explain.
Constantly. Otak2 is made up of such a diverse group of people and everybody has their own view on things. I found myself having to rethink my stands on several occasions after listening to the perspectives of others. Questions were also continuously raised to me such as “my role in the future of Malaysia” and “how I could contribute to the social sector” among others. It was really a fantastic experience and extremely important.
If you could choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Shiny Happy People by REM, because the people I’ve met in this program are shiny happy people holding hands. (Cliché acknowledged)
Have your career plans changed since Otak2? How and why?
Fundamentally, no. I have always been passionate about engineering and I still believe that this is the career path for me. However, after Otak2, I am now a lot more open to other sectors having seen the various opportunities available and what they can offer to me.
If the company in which you interned was in a field unrelated to your course of study, how did you feel about this difference? Were you able to transfer skills from your academic background to your workplace?
In the beginning, it was quite a steep learning curve as some of my work at Maxis was quite technical. I believe that studying mechanical engineering definitely helped me in making the connections when it came to learning some of the basics. Having an understanding in certain things such as coding and wave properties made the initial stages easier. Beyond that, I was required to be adaptable in applying my skills to many situations as my work did not have a specific routine. There would be times where I would be called to join a team to assess an area with unsatisfactory network coverage. Each case presented a unique situation. My academic background definitely prepared me well for the creative problem solving which was required.
Has Otak2 made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
Yes. Otak2 has reminded me about the great potential our country has and the amazing people who are working hard for Malaysia to be what it can be. I am now a lot more optimistic about what it would be like to work in Malaysia.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
The mentoring system can be very beneficial to interns. I think we can expand on this. Also, get the 2011 Otak2 alumni to help out next year
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Make use of this incredible opportunity. Don’t be afraid to meet people, discuss your ideas and put forth questions. It can be a rigorous experience but it will be so much fun and incredibly meaningful. In short, you will be hired, tired and inspired.
Congratulations on making it through the program. What’s next for you?
Making a positive difference to society.
How were you before Otak2 and how has the program changed you?
Before Otak2, I had a busy university life, coping with activities and lessons a day at a time.
After Otak2, I still have a busy life, but now with a better sense of purpose and direction in what I should do. The Otak2 programme provided us interns with a holistic high level exposure to the various industries in Malaysia, and injected us with better perspectives, an appreciation of the infinite roles we can play in building a nation. We’re really fortunate to be a part of this amazing experience.
Did the program meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
Frankly, I made it a point to begin my first day in the program without any expectations. So everything that came by was a surprise.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
They were living examples of people who are striving to live a life larger than themselves.
Best event or hangout moment and why?
The trek to Bukit Apek. It was a great bonding experience, and my first trek with fellow Malaysians.
Use one word or one phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
A great experience.
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today)?
Time. Too many things to do, too little time.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
A song about courage: I will go the distance.
Looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion?
I don’t think I got to explore that much, but I definitely did get to give a greater variety of industries some thought and better appreciate, on a high level, how each industry can make a difference to a country.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
*Jitters* No, I’m absolutely NOT ready to change the world, because there is just so much to learn. Nevertheless, I’ll still contribute in what little ways I can in the community I’m with. I hope to be able to take on more significant causes after graduation, but will concentrate on doing my current tasks right for now.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Come with an empty cup, so you can see it being filled to the brim.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
Have the events spread over a longer period, 7 weeks perhaps. It’ll be nice to designate a centralized location, one that is most accessible for all, to host some of the corporate sessions. No doubt visiting new places is part of the excitement, but it may also inconvenience those who stay far.
Also, more sharing sessions to consolidate views on a regular and scheduled basis.
How did you find out about Otak2?
Through Facebook.
Why did you decide to join Otak2?
Nothing to do during summer, thought of doing an internship, wanted to meet cool people.
Name 1 regret you had in Otak2. What would you do if the same thing occurs again in the future?
Not spending enough time with other friends and family.
What was the best event of the programme?
Ethos and Company. What better way to let us know about working at the company than to let us do their work, kind of?
1st batch of Otaks are done and over with. What’s in store for the world?
Change?
What’s your sagely advice to future Otaks?
Don’t neglect family. Play Mafia only a few times otherwise it’ll get boring.
Where did you intern at and what was your role?
I interned at Citibank in the Gobal Subsidiaries Group, the part of Citi’s corporate bank whose clients are multinational corporations that do business in Malaysia. My task as an intern was to conduct research on the market share for GSG, as well as look into companies from emerging market countries that do business in Malaysia.
Use five words to describe your internship at the company.
Window into finance and business.
Do you see a future for yourself in the industry that you’ve interned in and why?
Possibly. Previously I’d only known about investment banking, which is a very narrow and specialized field of banking. However, the banking industry is much more vast and complex than that, and it presents many interesting challenges to someone with some interest in the financial world and who is willing to learn.
Has the programme changed you in anyways and if yes, how?
It’s made me more aware of meaningful work opportunities in Malaysia outside the usual finance, consulting or accounting firms. I’ve also gained a better feel for what working life in KL would be like, and that’s made me reconsider some previous opinions about the quality of life one would have living and working in Malaysia.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
The first night, when we were in small groups talking to each other, and I was the last to speak. I started by saying, “My story has no morals,” since everyone else’s story ended with a clear lesson or moral but mine was about continuously learning and changing my ideas of what is true. However, it came out as “I have no morals”, and caused peals of laughter that kept going no matter how earnestly I tried to correct what I said.
Best event or hangout moment and why?
Honestly can’t pick just one since so many moments were special. Hanging out late at night in the YMCA, going for mamak together, playing card games, attending events early on Saturday mornings…
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today) and have you overcome that?
Waking up early in the mornings! Well, keeping motivated at a 9-5 job can be challenging for those of us used to scheduling our own study and activity times in college. It’s gotten better as I’ve become closer to my colleagues, since it becomes a place that I look forward to heading to every morning.
What is your biggest take away from the programme?
That it’s not so bad in Malaysia!
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
I have no idea (nothing quite comes to mind that isn’t sappy/cliche – I’ll let others answer this)
Use a phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Lots of talking. I think I know something, but I may be wrong.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Hooi Ling, the MyTeksi cofounder – Make the best decision you can at the time with the available information, and don’t worry too much, because you have no idea what the future will hold for you.
Cornelius Koh (HR manager, Tan Chong Motors) – It doesn’t matter as much as you think which company you start out in, whether it’s really prestigious and well-known or not. What matters more is getting the basics right, so that you are prepared for any kind of job later. Look for an employer that will invest in the right training, so you have a good beginning for your career.
Has your career plan changed since being a part of this internship?
My options have broadened. I would consider more unorthodox choices now since I have a better idea of what’s available out there.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
Ahhhhh!! One step at a time. Changing the world means changing your own perspectives and taking care of yourself first. I’ve seen too many people burnout to believe that change happens easily. Focus on changing yourself, then the people closest to you. Little by little, each of us can make a difference. But it’s like the Michael Jackson song “Man In the Mirror” – change has to begin from within.
Actually that doesn’t answer the question.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
You’re in an awesome program with amazing people! Ask lots of questions, be critical, be open-minded, and take every opportunity that comes your way. Six weeks pass before you know it. You can rest when you get back to school!
How were you before Otak2 and how has the programme changed you?
I am the usual ambitious guy whose lifestyle does not say so. I always want to minimize my play time, but day by day realising that I relax less yesterday compared to today. Otak2? It definitely impacted my life especially on this. Now I ask: why should I minimize my play time? Just maximize my work quality!
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
Town hall session at Waka Lab. When Joseph asked that question about who planned to be a politician. I’ve always considered it a taboo question and have told myself never to say yes to that kind of question, but on that night, even before I knew it, my hand went up in the air, ALONE. I felt like I wanted to kill Joseph that very instance!
Did the program meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
Yes and no. Yes because the events after working hours were more interesting and insightful than I expected. No because I thought the events will be way more serious, in terms of the aura and mood. But I’m not complaining!
Name one of your regrets throughout Otak2 and what have you done to make yourself feel better?
Nothing I can think of and not complaining either.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
There’s nothing more inspiring than working people sacrificing their time and money for a bunch of kids who do nothing but say thank you (and skip events!) Purely honest and heartwarming!
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Wan Mohd Firdaus (Ideas) – “Don’t enter gomen straight away!”
Best event or hangout moment and why?
A few mafia nights hosted by Joseph
Use one word or one phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Wholesomely Awesome!
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today)?
I told myself to stop socialising and be the quiet intellectual guy around two years back. Starting over is very hard, and even after two months, I felt that I have not done enough, but yeah, most friendly interns clearly help me ease in.
By looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion?
I am always in the centre of messiness in my brain; trying to decide which career path I should follow. Having given up on medicine, I somehow now need to link that degree to something I love, and Otak2 have opened my eyes to a lot of possibilities. Discovering talent? No, not yet, but passion, loving the corporate world day by day!
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
Firstly, I want to watch a movie after a long while. Then I will complete my medical course, make a lot of money, and then I will be a politician with integrity and honesty without owing to any parties with special interest at all! Then I can truly change the world.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
You will feel doubtful whether to apply for it or not, but go for it. You will be doubtful whether to accept the offer or not, just accept it, because without a slightest doubt, this is the best way to ever spend your 2 months break!
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
Involve at least 1 government agency
More informal, knowledge sharing session
Stay as strictly as you can to the Otak2 programme, because it rocks!
Why did you decide to join Otak2?
Otak2 was a refreshing, new, and an exciting concept and I knew of the Otak2 founders and all the amazing things that they have done, so why not? I couldn’t think of any better summer internship program in Malaysia that will come close to the rigorous and diverse structure of Otak2.
What was your favourite event and why?
I do not have a specific event that was my favorite, nonetheless I enjoyed the MPCC event very much. It was the first time that distinguished (and not so distinguished) representatives from the public sector posed a very important question to us interns – “Why not the public sector?” which eventually framed most future Otak2 discussions. And that was the beginning of a very thought-provoking two months.
Were you able to explore your potential talents and passion through Otak2? Why or why not?
Most definitely. My internship with Teach For Malaysia (TFM) was beyond my expectations. During my internship, I realized many of my strengths and worked on (forced to sometimes!) developing important skills for specific jobs. For example, I learned (and still learning) how to perfect the ‘elevator pitch’ which is pretty much crucial for any start-up organization.
One important thing that I became more conscious of over the course of the internship at TFM and in Otak2 as a whole was that no matter what you are invested in – be it for a noble cause or to earn big bucks for a corporate company, surround yourself with people with the same mission and vision, and you’ll be surprised where it’ll take you. Teach For Malaysia and Otak2 did that for me, it reaffirmed my faith in people and in my country. It redefined ‘fulfillment’ and ‘success’ for me. The core team behind TFM and Otak2 alike exuded such passion and drive that it was infectious. So yes, I definitely explored my passion this summer. Absolutely.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
“Wear sunscreen” – Dzameer Zulkifli on Baz Luhrman’s Everybody’s Free (To Wear Sunscreen).
Were you ever challenged to reconsider your opinions and views, either during one of the program events, or by your fellow interns or the Otak2 founders? Explain.
Every single day. Whether it was about “how hot a particular intern is” to “the corporate vs public sector dilemma”. Everyone has an opinion. Otak2 exposed me to many different perspectives – some rather odd, some extremely refreshing, but at the end of the day, we were all very unique but same same in our own ways.
Use one word or phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months. OR If you could choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
“Edge Of Glory” by Lady Gaga. Well, to be honest I remember quite vividly Aidan Chan breaking into his sonic dance moves and Chenny Ng lip-syncing to this song on one of our many random social nights in Bangsar. I remembered sitting back on this grungy leather chair and realized that all of us, at this particular point of our lives are indeed, at the very edge of glory.
Have your career plans changed since Otak2? How and why?
I did not have career plans prior to Otak2 and I still don’t. I’m still exploring my options and Otak2 reassured me that it is okay not to know or have career plans at this point in my life. Since Otak2, I have more confidence in knowing that I will get there.. eventually.
If the company in which you interned was in a field unrelated to your course of study, how did you feel about this difference? Were you able to transfer skills from your academic background to your workplace?
It didn’t matter to me whether the internship had anything to do with my major. From a liberal arts standpoint, no matter what your field of study is, you will have a unique contribution. Different majors breed different set of skills, so it’s really what you bring to the table at the end of the day. But yeah, to some extent my liberal arts background helped a lot in ‘piecing the big picture together’ at my time at Teach For Malaysia – by looking at different points of views and ways to do a certain task, and reflection, plenty and plenty of reflection.
Has Otak2 made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
Absolutely. After being abroad for so long (this is my 4th year abroad and 2 more to go!), I was reminded of the awesomeness of Malaysians, whether it was our potential power of impact in our country or that we’re just cool, interesting, kick-ass people.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
Aww Otak2, you’re perfect. Don’t ever change.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Have fun, get to know the Otak2 peeps (founders and interns alike!). Take the program seriously but don’t take it too seriously.
Congratulations on making it through the program. What’s next for you?
Aaah kawan, that, we will just have to find out
Did the program meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
Yes, it did. The program helped me meet a lot of interesting people and gain insights into various career paths, which I believe sets it apart from many other internship programs.
Name 1 regret you had in Otak2. What would you do if the same thing occurs again in the future?
I feel sad that I was not able to get to know more about many people in the program. Everyone has a story to share, but I was not able to find out all of them. In the future, I guess I’ll talk more?
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
During the Taylor’s event, an employee by the name of Kian Ming (if I am not mistaken) said “We are not strangers, but in fact, two friends that have not met yet”. That blew my mind for the next 5 minutes.
Best event was _________.
I personally don’t have a favourite event. I enjoyed most of the events, but I don’t have a particular event that I am most fond of. Each event had its good points.
As an Otak, describe your experience in BFM format. (I.e.: Best Friend Mandate, Bonkers + Fun = Mental)
Beyond Fabulous Memories
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
‘We Built This City’ by Starship. The title itself indicates that we had a hand in shaping this program because we were the first batch. Its lyrics also have weird connections to our experiences such as “It’s just another Sunday, on a tired old street”, “Police have got the choke hold”, “Someone always playing corporation games” and a few more. Plus, it has a catchy beat!
Looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, have you found your calling in life? (i.e.: Teach for Malaysia, ship-building)
I’d have to say no, but not in a bad way. As I mentioned earlier, the program has really opened my eyes to various opportunities which I might not have considered before. So now with more options to weigh, I’ll have to start thinking about what I really want to do in the future…
The 1st batch of Otaks are done and over with. What’s in store for the world?
I really won’t be surprised to see a bunch of Otaks becoming key figures in their respective fields, be it in the corporate or non-profit sector.
What’s your sage advice to future Otaks?
You’re not always going to be this lucky.
How were you before Otak2 and how has the program changed you?
I used to have a less optimistic perception of working in Malaysia after I graduate from university. The Otak2 program opened up my outlook to the vast opportunities available in Malaysia. There is much untapped potential, and there is human capital necessary to fulfill that potential. All that is needed is a paradigm shift which Otak2 has provided to me.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
I found The Boston Consulting Group (BCG) event the most memorable. The case study sessions provided good problem-solving training. Talking to BCG’s consultants made me realise the huge untapped potential available in Malaysia.
Did the program meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
The program exceeded my expectations as it provided vast networking opportunities with the Otak2 corporate partners. Getting to know 40 other unique and interesting individuals studying a wide variety of subjects in all corners of the world, is something I cherish. Hanging out together made us understand each other better, and I made the best of friends during the program.
Name one of your regrets throughout Otak2 and what have you done to make yourself feel better?
I felt sad that the Otak2 program had to end. However we continued to hang out after the program ended, and always seized any chance to meet up.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
The Otak2 founders did something to change the situation in Malaysia rather than merely complaining about it. It takes a lot to transpire ideas into reality. Social entrepreneurship was something foreign to me before Otak2. After Otak2, I realised there was a lot that we can give back to society via social enterprise.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
The Otak2 co-founder, Anand Pillai, inspired me to think out of the box. During my internship at Ethos I was fortunate to be given both training and hands-on learning opportunities. The best piece of advice that Anand gave, was to seize opportunities that come by.
Best event or hangout moment and why?
Citibank’s training program at their headquarters was very well run. It provided key insights into the banking scene.
We have 1 more week before we officially wrap up, so how are you planning to make an impact before it’s over?
While the program is coming to an official end, the relationships will last for a long time to come. The best of friendships made during the program, are something I value the most.
Use one word or one phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Intense fun.
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today)?
Recovering from Otak2 withdrawal symptoms.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Party Rock Anthem. It was all over the radio during the one and a half months of Otak2, and sometimes we sang along to it, hence I have associated the song with Otak2.
By looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion?
I realised just how broad the range of career paths that can be chosen. This has encouraged me to explore my passion to the fullest.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
The Otak2 program has provided the catalyst which will propel me forward in life. The unique blend of friendship, professional skills, networking, outlook and character building experienced during the program is something which is difficult to achieve all within a single program, and Otak2 has certainly exceeded my expectations to do that. In exploring my passion, I now see things from a broader perspective.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Seize the opportunity.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
Keep up the good work!
Why did you decide to join Otak2?
Otak2 definitely stood out among all the other internships programs (firstly, I don’t think there was any similar program in Malaysia). I especially relished the idea of being exposed to so many different industries (and Malaysian industries – patriotism kicking in there). That was something no internship would have offered me. And to learn from Malaysia’s top 50 interns? Hell yeah! Being back home was also a huge draw too as I haven’t been back for 9 months before that.
What was your favourite event and why?
In terms of most practical skills gained, it would be the session by Ethos & Co. as it was a great both learning about consulting in Malaysia and having hands-on experience at the same time. However, the startup panel was definitely the most informative in terms of new knowledge as before that I had no knowledge about Malaysia’s startup scene. Nonetheless the coolest has to be the shipyard visit even though I didn’t learn as much as compared to other sessions (I would not have stepped into one in my entire life if not for Otak-Otak). It’s a close tie between those two, but if I really had to pick, it’d be the shipyard visit. The fact that we used heavy machinery to pull out our bus definitely made it so much more exciting.
Were you able to explore your potential talents and passion through Otak2? Why or why not?
I felt I could have been challenged more at work and offered a bigger impact to BFM (should have taken more initiative on my part), but it was definitely great learning how it’s like to work in the real world. It was my first internship and I now know so much more about what to look out for in my next.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
Shawn Tan, “Ideas are plentiful…It doesn’t matter if you came up with the idea first, what’s most important is being the first on the market.” (major paraphrase here, but you get the gist) I thought that painted a very realistic and practical view of not only the startup world but also life in general. It reflected accurately on the idea that life doesn’t always correlate with our normative views of the world.
Were you ever challenged to reconsider your opinions and views, either during one of the program events, or by your fellow interns or the Otak2 founders? Explain.
There was a great debate throughout the program about the clash between going for corporate greed or tightening your belt and saving the world. It definitely provoked me to rethink my decision to enter the consulting industry right after graduation and to reconsider if some of my own reasons for going into that industry were merely a post-rationalization attempt at feeling good. At the same time, it was definitely refreshing to see a third opposing viewpoint arguing that perhaps we are forcing ourselves into a false dilemma and that it’s definitely possible to do both at the same time.
Use one word or phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months. OR If you could choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
F***ing amazing (there’s no other way to describe it)
Have your career plans changed since Otak2? How and why?
I have yet to change my career plans for the immediate future after graduation. However, I am definitely now more open to trying out new industries. I am much more positive about Malaysia’s family-run companies (knowing that people like the Tan brothers exist and are driving changes at Tan Chong).
If the company in which you interned was in a field unrelated to your course of study, how did you feel about this difference? Were you able to transfer skills from your academic background to your workplace?
It was a very rewarding and fulfilling experience to work in an entirely new industry (media) of which I had zero knowledge of, less on the actual hard skills but rather on the entire work experience. I am still undecided in terms of major (most probably engineering but until then I had not taken a single engineering class). Nonetheless, I definitely utilized my research skills from school (all those papers written) for researching interviews with CEOs. I also had to analyze signal strengths and develop a way to represent that bulk of data in a simple and graphical manner. This definitely will be helpful in engineering in analyzing interpreting large data. All in all, my objective going into the internship was also not about learning transferable engineering skills but rather to gain exposure to this new industry and I felt I definitely achieved that.
Has Otak2 made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
Yes, definitely. It exposed me to so many industries in Malaysia that I had zero knowledge before, such as the heavy industry. It also gave me optimism about the possible opportunities for young people like post-graduation in Malaysia. The debate about doing social good and fulfilling one’s potential definitely prompt me to put Malaysia in my post-graduation radar.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
Bringing in a more diverse group of companies (definitely more non-traditional industries such as the heavy industry, family-run businesses, startups)
Corporate events that incorporated skill-training sessions (data analysis, excel, presentation, work etiquette etc.) Our schedule was really tight this summer so in view of that, sessions that focused on introduction to that industry/company is definitely a higher priority, but events that mixed both such as the session by Ethos was definitely very rewarding. Perhaps there could be priority for training sessions with companies whose industries have been covered in previous sessions.
Other than that, great balance between structure and freedom in ensuring we were making full use of our time together.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Work hard, party hard, and watch out for the mafia.
Congratulations on making it through the program. What’s next for you?
World domination with Aidan.
Why did you decide to join Otak2?
It was a choice between an internship in Singapore or Malaysia. I choose Otak2 because I wanted to find out more about the working culture in Malaysia as I had not experienced it before. Also, it was a chance to meet fellow Malaysians who were studying abroad and to get their views about the countries they were studying in.
What was your favourite event and why?
The startup one. It was more of a personal interest. Entrepreneurship has always been of interest to me, even before I was familiar with the term. Now, having worked in 2 startup companies in Sweden, I am convinced that working in startup is one of my career options.
Were you able to explore your potential talents and passion through Otak2? Why or why not?
Otak2 was one of the most amazing programs that I have done. I managed to put what I learned in class, as well as my leadership and communication skills, to the test.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
Anand Pillai, the Otak2 cofounder. When he said he could do a lot more in life rather than what he does today.
Use one word or phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Awesome.
Have your career plans changed since Otak2? How and why?
No. I already knew what I wanted to do before Otak2.
Has Otak2 made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
Yes.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
Improve on the mentorship. I think we didn’t get to spend much time with the mentors. One suggestion would be to have a “mentor meeting mentees” event every 2 weeks.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Give yourself a challenge. It’s one of these places where the best gets so much better.
Congratulations on making it through the program. What’s next for you?
I’ll be graduating from my undergraduate studies so looking for a career would be the main aim.
How has Otak2 affected your career plans, if it has?
Well, to a large extent I was going to be a practicing engineer, and it was only during the end of my studies that I realized that being an engineer wasn’t entirely suited to who I was. Coincidentally it was during this time that I discovered the Otak-Otak program and it was through the program that I realized there are many other options for engineers and from there my career path has widened considerably.
The workshops by various employees and my attachment to my corporate partner has given me a lot of exposure which is not normally available to the average engineer.
Do you think this internship has changed any part of your world view?
I suppose, to a very large extent I’ve never had contact with anyone from the more renowned universities, they’ve always been this sort of mystical beings. But having interacted with them because of this program, I’ve noticed that a lot of them are down-to-earth people and there’s not much different between me and them. And what really hit me was that the biggest difference between us was the opportunities that were afforded us in those critical stages of our lives, which really makes it more important to really get the word out about opportunities available, like this program.
What do you think made your specific internship stand out from the rest of the internships?
I think the biggest benefit or selling point of my internship was the very fact that mine isn’t just an internship, in the sense that my engagement with my company is expected to last longer than the prescribed 2 months so the responsibilities accorded me are a bit more than the usual. Also, my colleagues are very keen on personal development and they take the time to coach me, take me aside, give me feedback (sometimes painful, but helpful nonetheless) and make sure that every week I’m pushed beyond boundaries.
What has been your favourite event so far and why?
I think my favourite event so far was the Taylor’s event. I felt that they were really human, in comparison to some other companies who insisted on labeling us based on our universities and academic scores. Datuk Loy, the group CEO of Taylor’s was at the event and we didn’t realize it until it was announced; we were all shocked that someone of such stature could be so down-to-earth. They didn’t just regard us as recruits but they valued our potential and regarded us as people. So if I were to choose one company that impacted me the most and of which I would love to join, I think it would be Taylor’s.
How were you before Otak2 and how has the program changed you?
Honestly, I was a little apprehensive prior to joining the program. I was taken aback by the overwhelming number of events that were scheduled throughout the 6 weeks, on top of the compulsory stay at YMCA every weekend. I had quite a hard time deciding whether to continue on with my then current internship or to cut it short and join the Otak2 program. Looking back, I’m really really reallllyyyy glad that I chose the latter. This has been by far the most fulfilling summer/program I’ve taken part in. Internship/corporate events aside, the best thing I got to take away with me from the program is the opportunity to get to know this bunch of brilliant and fun-loving young people
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
Cannot recall any particular embarrassing moment, but definitely a ton of eventful ones haha. Basically the nights spent playing Mafia, badminton, outings, mamak sessions, group chats at YMCA over the weekends were pretty happening.
Oh yes, some embarrassing moments that I can think of are those times where I was teased by some people (read: Joseph, Wilson, Nellie, Philip, Andrew etc.) for not being able to pronounce my R’s, but hey, at least I’m adding some entertainment value here haha..and I don’t take it personally anyway since we all find it amusing (and partly because I’m used to it already lah)
Did the program meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
Yes, in fact, it’s gone way beyond my expectations considering how I was a little skeptical of how I’d fit into the program initially.
Name one of your regrets throughout Otak2; what have you done to make yourself feel better?
Probably not utilizing the opportunity to network with some corporate partners well (I get a little awkward in social settings where one’s expected to be more proactive). What did I do to make myself feel better? Telling myself that there are some people on the same boat as me too haha..(I could be in denial :p)
How did your mentor inspire you to be a better person?
Didn’t get to officially meet him
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Jasvind – “I am not the Mafia!” – very applicable in life hahaha
Best event or hangout moment and why?
YMCA nights, great bonding time haha
We have 1 more week before we officially wrap up, so how are you planning to make an impact before it’s over?
Have impromptu gatherings outside of the program just like what a group of buddies would do on any given day
Use one word or one phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Incredibly rewarding
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today)?
Pronouncing words with R’s?
If you could choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Bruno Mars – Count on Me.
By looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion?
Yup.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
Maybe not on that level, will start with changing myself first…
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Embrace it!
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
Probably have corporate partners agree to let interns leave at a fixed time (say 5-5 30pm). Events tend drag on for too long and it can get very inconvenient for those who stay far away.
How were you before Otak2 and how has the programme changed you?
The programme introduced me to the many young talents in Malaysia. I became more humble and I truly enjoyed their presence and companionship.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
An eventful moment – Listening to the speech given by Taylor’s Education Group’s CEO, Dato’ Loy because it resonates with what I would like to achieve in the field of education.
Did the programme meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
The program definitely exceeds my expectation because of the “honour” that I received every time I go for an event. I felt that I was treated above averagely with high respect and I was privileged to be treated so.
Name one of your regrets throughout Otak2 and what have you done to make yourself feel better?
I found it difficult to plan my weeks and weekends at first because I did not know the programme schedule entirely. I cancelled some of the appointments, which I have made and I did not plan any events with my friends and family then. I felt sour initially, but this is the commitment that I have to put in. Reminding myself that I have already made a promise and commitment to Otak2, I have to be responsible for what I say. I felt better because I chose to be responsible.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
My mentor played futsal with me, and I found out that he is from my high school
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Philip Loh’s Facebook advice:
“I can win, I may lose, I might just even die. But I will not quit, I will not stop, and I will do everything in style. It just doesn’t make sense to trade my ideals for either victory or defeat.” – Philip Z Loh.
Best event or hangout moment and why?
I love the time I spent at YMCA. It is a platform to spend more time with your new friends.
We have 1 more week before we officially wrap up, so how are you planning to make an impact before it’s over?
I miss my family and I wish to have a good rest. Nonetheless, I will miss the friends I made within these two months. I wish to spend a little more time with the Otak2 interns before departing.
Use one word or one phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
AWESOME.
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today)?
Juggling between work, Otak2 events, friends in Kuala Lumpur, errands in Singapore, family in Penang and personal time.
By looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion?
I love the networking sessions very much, as I get to know the insides of every industry. This further strengthens my passion for education and the need to educate young minds to achieve greater success. Although banking and consulting are top-notch jobs, I do not see myself working in those fields. I will still stay true towards nurturing young talents and providing quality education. Meeting those important people deepens my passion to provide quality education for teens.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
To be more involved in the field of education.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
This is a must-join event for highly talented young Malaysians. You will not get an opportunity like this very often. You get to meet the CEO/Director/General Manager of many companies and even the Prime Minister for the many events that you will attend and the best part is, you are paid to meet them.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
I know it would be a little challenging, but could the calendar be slightly more planned for the future so that the interns could plan out their time as well.
Why did you decide to join Otak2?
I decided to join Otak2 because the late start would allow me to do 2 internships in the summer as well as go home to Malaysia. Similarly, my internship at Otak2 also allowed me to explore more governmental work – something I have been doing and am keen doing.
What was your favourite event and why?
I think my favourite event was the career game held at TalentCorp. The game successfully translated the realities of moral dilemmas that people face in life into simple steps on a board game. The progression of the game also made me think a lot.
Were you able to explore your potential talents and passion through Otak2? Why or why not?
I would say yes. I managed to see another high profile government agency in action. As I am very interested in seeing how such government agencies work, I definitely managed to explore my passion. As for “talent”, I am personally still uncomfortable with this term. Nonetheless, I did learn many things and utilize my abilities towards my internship.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
Many people had many things to say throughout the whole Otak2 experience. As such, I have learnt the perspectives of many people, which will help me develop my own someday.
Use one word or phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Great experience.
Have your career plans changed since Otak2? How and why?
I think Otak2 has definitely showed me that there are opportunities in Malaysia.
If the company in which you interned was in a field unrelated to your course of study, how did you feel about this difference? Were you able to transfer skills from your academic background to your workplace?
I have long known that with some exceptions, most academic education is unrelated to real life work. As such, as long as one can learn important skills through the university experience, one should be fine with work. This internship has definitely been the case.
Has Otak2 made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
Yes.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Keep an open mind and learn.
Congratulations on making it through the program. What’s next for you?
Graduate and see what happens.
How were you before Otak2 and how has the program changed you?
Honestly, I felt really intimidated when I first saw the list of interns. Ivy Leagues, Cambridge, Liberal Art Colleges – “How can I click with them? I’m not as smart.” It took a while for me to adjust and blend in, and they are actually really awesome! If it’s not for Otak2, I will never have the chance to meet up with this bunch.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
This is not embarrassing, but I will never forget the sketch we did during the VOC and MCEF event. We decided to make it impromptu and did not rehearse, so even all of us on the stage were surprised and burst into laughter at Girish’s epicness!
Did the program meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
This is a no brainer; of course it did! I never knew that the most awesome place to work in Asia is right here in Bangsar, that a family run business can grow as huge as what Tan Chong is right now, that Malaysia is working on producing fuel from palm waste, (I can go on and on and on) but most importantly, I never knew that I was not the only one who wants to make a difference to the country – fellow interns, JAH (and John ;p), mentors, young CEOs, they all have inspired me in so many ways!
Name one of your regrets throughout Otak2 and what have you done to make yourself feel better?
The only field trip that I joined was to the Nissan plant. I missed the shipyard, Air Asia and Royal Selangor. I refuse to look at the event pictures, or else I’d get more jealous.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
Their personal stories made me want to explore myself, to figure out what my passion really is, what I’m good at and to plan the future route around it.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Dato’ Loy Teik Ngan, CEO of Taylor’s Education Group – “Who I am, isn’t the same as what I can do, how you see me, isn’t the same as the type of difference I can make”
Best event or hangout moment and why?
I’d say the start-ups event. The speakers are all young, smart, idealistic, and go-getters. Inspiring.
We have one more week before we officially wrap up, so how are you planning to make an impact before it’s over?
It’s already over now :’( I’ll definitely try my best to keep in touch with as many of the Otak2 peeps as possible.
Use one word or one phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
One-word-can-never-do-Otak2-justice
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today)?
It was to juggle my weeknights and weekends between Otak2 events (formal and also social), friends, family, boyfriend and a student body that I’m involved in.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
I’ve spent 20 minutes thinking what to answer and I’ve given up. #maximumnoobness
By looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion?
I’m definitely more exposed to many different career options, which in a way makes it more confusing! One thing for sure, I have learned that it is fine to be selfish and do what I love so I can get a good night’s sleep.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
I don’t think I’m ready yet. There’s a lot more to learn, and that’s what I’m going to do – continue finding opportunities to learn.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Screw other plans – it’s going to be the best 6 weeks of the year!
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
To have (official) events with the mentor, so other interns can get to know other mentors as well. And rent a house for the weekends!
How were you before Otak2 and how has the program changed you?
The corporate world and the financial services industry especially appeared to me as a malignant spectre before Otak2. The program has really given me a rather well-rounded exposure on the different sectors that operate in Malaysia. I have come to realize the possibilities that exist within each industry to do something socially and personally meaningful beyond mere profit making.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
Probably one of the most eventful moments for me was when we had to come up with themes at the jelly making competition that Royal Selangor hosted and making an impromptu presentation. Given that we only had half an hour to make the jellies and seven colors to play around with, we could only think of two things that could be associated with the colors of the rainbow – the LGBTQ movement and the Andean indigenous movement. And since I was the one who suggested the two themes, it came down to me making a rather embarrassing and random presentation, which included phrases like “the fluidity of sexuality” and “Galapagos-looking jellies.” But despite all the nonsense, my group surprisingly won in the end! We received a few hundred ringgits worth of vouchers, a certificate, and a chance to actually make our own pewter pieces. The latter was particularly rewarding as we got the chance to hammer our own pewter bowls and carve our names at the bottom.
So I guess a liberal arts education does come in handy at times when one has to spout words out of nothing.
Did the program meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
To be honest, the program turned out to be so much more amazing than what I initially thought. Before we started the program, I was thinking that it would be such a hassle to attend so many events almost every night. But now that the program has ended, I can’t stop thinking about organizing even more events for all of us to go to. Beyond exposing me to so many different sectors and organizations in Malaysia, Otak-otak has been a place where I formed long-lasting relationships and networks that will only grow in importance in the future.
I think the most rewarding experience has been the deep conversations I had with my fellow interns and Otak-otak organizers. Discussing bigger ideas and issues with such an ideologically diverse group of individuals has given me much room for further thought and reflection. I only wish there was more time for more deep discussions.
Name one of your regrets throughout Otak2 and what have you done to make yourself feel better?
I guess my biggest regret would be that I did not get to know all my fellow interns as well as I had hoped. I did make the conscious effort to not spread myself too thin in getting to know people this summer which resulted in me developing more profound relationships with fewer people. In the process, I ended up having exchanged barely a few words with some of my peers. Nonetheless, I made the point to be involved in as much as possible towards the end of the program. I made it to all the official events and went to as many of the informal ones as I could.
But having said that, I believe the program did not come to an end this summer break. If anything, it has only signaled the beginning of budding friendships and relationships that will last a lifetime.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
Frankly speaking, I barely had a chance to speak to my mentor. I guess I carry a fair share of the blame since I could have made more of an effort in reaching out to him. The only big issue was that we had so little time to actually spend with our mentors given that we had such packed schedules and very little free time. However, I will still attempt at getting to know my mentor better in the future.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Anand – To be honest to yourself about what you want in life.
Best event or hangout moment and why?
This one mamak session on one of the first Saturday afternoons that lasted for at least 5 hours
. It was the first time I had substantial conversations with some of the people I had not had a chance to talk to. Some of the topics were pretty outrageous too (i.e. think crazy college traditions etc.) Use one word or one phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Unexpectedly amazing
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today)?
My biggest challenge so far has been to reconcile my beliefs with profit-making strategies that lack any sense of a social goal beyond the accumulation of wealth and hold the potential of causing social harm in the process.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Do You Remember by John Legend
Looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion?
I’ve come to realize the vast variety of career paths I can take regardless of my specialization/major in university/college. There exist many points of intervention as well within the world of for profit enterprises to do things that can yield much social good. Moreover, there are highly transferable skills that can be learnt from every industry that one can apply to work in the non-profit and governmental sectors.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
I am! (haha) My next step will be to get either a law degree and gain experience through the world of consulting (or both!).
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Participate in all the events and discussions! Try to get to know as many of the amazing individuals in your cohort as possible
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
More representation across different industries.
Where did you intern at and what was your role?
I interned at The Star under their New Media department which deals with the website and mobile apps. I researched a number of their new policy directions. I also dealt a lot with advertising revenue and I generated revenue forecasts.
Use five words to describe your internship at the company.
Excel Word PowerPoint Facebook Excel
Do you see a future for yourself in the industry that you’ve interned in and why?
I always had an interest in businesses that innovate by leveraging the Internet. The internship definitely gave me a clearer idea of what the business side of things entails.
Has the programme changed you in anyways and if yes, how?
The biggest thing I learnt from being in The Star was how easy it is to lose sight of reality while “working”. Researching or diving into an excel spreadsheet gives you a lot of data. This allows conclusions to be made based purely on what you see on the computer screen. It is very easy to have false confidence in data. I learned this quite a number of times when I came to conclusions based purely on data that just did not make sense when you look at how things actually work. The potential for disconnect from reality is huge and can be very dangerous to a business.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
TalentCorp event – acted out a sexual harassment scene with VP from the Securities Commission.
Best event or hangout moment and why?
The event with Talent Corp was just hilarious in terms of the exposure we interns got.
I remember watching a video on Youtube a few weeks before on Internet infrastructure in Malaysia and around the world. I found it insightful and the speaker, albeit very casual, I thought, was very smart. Fast-forward to the Talent Corp event. All of us were split into groups, and the same guy sat down opposite me and we went on to have a very candid conversation about his career and such things. Only mid way through the conversation did I realize I was talking to the CEO of Time dot Com.
What is your biggest take away from the programme?
Friends, career opportunities
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
YMCA by Village People. Most fun happened in YMCA.
Use a phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Boom shaka laka
Amongst your mentor/Otak2 founders/colleagues, who have you learned the most from and why?
Founders; sincerity goes a long way.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Zain HD about being useful and creating value.
Has your career plan changed since being a part of this internship?
Yes
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
Yes, work hard.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
See you guys next Summer!
Why did you decide to join Otak2?
I was looking for a summer internship to make my stay at Malaysia a more productive one. Then I came across the Otak2 program, which has my ideal company in its list of partners. Purely because it’s super easy to apply (send in my resume, answer a few simple questions and that’s it!) so I decided to give it a try.
What was your favourite event and why?
My favorite event was the one hosted by AirAsia. This event exposed me to the unique working environment (fun yet productive) that I thought could not exist in a really successful company.
Were you able to explore your potential talents and passion through Otak2? Why or why not?
Yes. It was done through my placement at Citibank’s Markets and Treasury Department. I was able to explore and learn about the Capital Markets in Malaysia under the guidance of my immediate supervisor as well as some other friendly colleagues in the department. It was a very pleasant work experience that didn’t involve too much stress so I can freely explore my passion at my own pace.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
It’d be Stanley, the Head of Markets and Treasury department of Citibank (Malaysia). He advised me to look for a career, especially during my first job, which offers a positive working environment (colleague, responsibility, supervisor, etc) rather than one that pays well. This advice influenced me significantly throughout my internship period and I think it’s going to play a big role in determining my future career path.
Use one word or phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Inspiring.
Have your career plans changed since Otak2? How and why?
Yes. The people I met, the events I went, the job experience and the many conversations that I had with the people in the industry made me to think that a corporate career might not be something that I really want to do in the very far future. I’m now more open in terms of working in the public sector.
Has Otak2 made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
Yes. It has made such a significant impact in this aspect.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
More participants from the local universities so that different perspectives can be brought into the group.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Try to be open-minded so that you can have numerous positive takeaways from the program!
Congratulations on making it through the program. What’s next for you?
Leading a group of people to form and develop an umbrella association that represents all the international student groups at UW-Madison to encourage collaborative efforts that uphold international students’ welfare and to serve as an advocacy body.
You did your internship at Maxis Communications, and you’re studying Electrical & Electronic Engineering at Imperial. Why or how did you end up with this particular company for your internship, and are there skills that you were able to transfer between your academic learning and your work? Do you think it’s important to do internships in the same field as your studies, and why or why not?
I wanted to do a technical internship for this year and thus Maxis is the closest company that matches my interest and field of studies. Definitely, because in Imperial we are normally given technical and dry materials to do everyday, so although I didn’t study mobile network and other telecommunications knowledge beforehand, I can still pick them up. For sciences/engineering courses, I think it’s important because we need to get hands-on experience and visualize those text-books concept.
How has this internship changed your world view?
Thanks to this programme, I actually had the chance to interact with Malaysian students who are in the States. I got to know more about the other side of the world and understand the differences between me and them.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2 / Single best moment during the internship?
To be able to know some best buddies in Otak2 has been the greatest moment. Dancing with a Kinect and hanging around with other Otak2 interns counts too!
Did the program meet your expectations; did it turn out to be as advertised? Explain why or why not?
The programme exceeded my expectation. Mainly because I have gained something that was not advertised earlier, like friendships, close interactions and thought-provoking discussions. Sometimes, those subtle and unexpected things that happened were more impactful than the normal networking sessions.
Describe your Otak2 experience in three words.
Just love Otak2.
What would you say was the best thing about the internship?
The other interns. The tea-break sessions with my fellow interns at Maxis. As well as the jobs given by my supervisor. I had the unique opportunity to rotate within Maxis for at least 3 departments, like Core Network, Network Optimization and Product Development and Info Services department.
Name one of your regrets throughout Otak2; what have you done to make yourself feel better?
Talking about regrets, I don’t think I have much. Perhaps one would be that I should have stayed in the KL area so that I could gain the most from my internship as well as have the maximum fun time with the other interns.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
They have given me a chance to see what we can do. We can focus on our careers, but at the same time, we can also contribute towards society. It is not an either-or thing, instead it could be an A-and-B together thing.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice? / Who was your favourite speaker at the events and why?
Chen Chow at the TalentCorp event. He told me that keeping your own belief is very important and when people criticize it, don’t be afraid as long as you think that it’s worth holding on to. My favourite speaker would be Wan Firdaus at IDEAS. His view is exactly my thoughts for all these years: being practical by focusing on a field that you can do best, excelling in it and helping the nation from there.
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today)?
The biggest challenge was to attend all the events and rush back to Seremban, and come to work the next morning. I was deprived of sleep for the 6 weeks, but no regrets.
By looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion? Has this internship made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
I think maybe I can try out Consulting. Although it’s notorious in the sense of its nature of work, it’s highly appealing for engineers-to-be like us. It requires a lot of thinking and good problem-solving skills. Coming back to Malaysia to work is something that we can think about, yea, slightly more likely.
What would you say is the focus of the program and do you feel that this it achieved this?
The focus of the program, I think, is to provide the students, mainly overseas, a chance to have a look on the industries and job markets in Malaysia. In a way, it wants to attract those students to come back and contribute to the country. And, from the 2 months period and for the first time being launched, I think it has achieved its objective, at the very least, we are exposed to so many different industries in Malaysia.
Has your career plan changed since being a part of this internship?
Not really a big shift. But I would say I might be considering other options, rather than purely engineering job.
You did your internship at aeste, an engineering/ microprocessor company, and you’re studying Engineering at Olin. Why or how did you end up with this particular company for your internship, and were there skills that you were able to transfer between the two? Do you think it’s important to do internships in your field of study, and why or why not?
Technically, my major is Engineering with a concentration in Computing. I ended up with aeste because I chose them and they chose me. aeste stood out among other companies because it had a certain…quirkiness to it. Its website linked the company blog and I found posts by Shawn Tan—the S. T. behind “aes-te”—detailing the office layout, furniture, and equipment. And these weren’t general product descriptions copied from random websites—they were intelligent, succinct paragraphs of what was where and why. I thought to myself: “If the boss pays such attention to creating an office space conducive for getting work done, I can bet that he’s going to pay good individual attention to his interns. This will be great.” Why they picked me is a question for Shawn.
After arriving at aeste, I was really glad that I knew just enough to help me learn the rest of what I needed to learn: I knew how to design and write code, I knew how to find support and debug, and I knew how to communicate in the realm of slightly-abstract ideas. All that helped to ensure that my experience would be a good one—which it was—and I now am much more confident to graduate into a technical position. With the benefit of hindsight, I will say that interning in—not just your field of study—a position in which one thinks one will want to end up is extremely important; it will either allay a lot of uncertainty or prevent a lot of disappointment by allowing one to realize that the position isn’t one’s cup of tea.
How has this internship changed your world view?
Imagine Schrödinger’s cat lived in a box that I had. Aha—gotcha! That meant that the cat was alive. Okay, well, imagine it…existed in that box. That’s like my world view before this internship. I thought I thought a certain way, I thought I knew a certain truth…but I didn’t really. In fact, I didn’t really know what I thought. The internship offered a peek into the box—just a peek—and that inevitably made me think in more certain terms about the world. It didn’t revolutionize the way I thought or anything like that, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t valuable insight. I have a greater appreciation for multiple professions and fields and also a healthier skepticism for the rosy picture that people sometimes paint when they want something of someone.
Tell me about your single best moment during the internship.
Going into Otak2, I brought with me my reputation as a resourceful and spontaneous individual always up for a challenge. As a result, I kept looking out for opportunities to add value to the communal experience—including getting all of us to play Mafia not-too-late at night at the YMCA. Joseph Leong’s birthday didn’t come to me as a surprise—I knew about it on Facebook—but when I heard how his bosses threw him a surprise at work—they apparently planned it way before he started his internship—and when I saw that he brought leftover cake to the YMCA and left it at the concierge, I knew that I had hit gold. I roped in Joyce, Anand, and others to help me throw a surprise that Joseph would (hopefully) never forget—being surprised in the exact same way twice in a day without ever suspecting a thing. And it was executed perfectly.
Did the program meet your expectations; did it turn out to be as advertised? Explain why or why not?
I don’t remember how Otak2 was advertised to me…I came into the program without much expectation. I usually don’t expect much from such opportunities…on the contrary, I see everything as a challenge—I did when it was Otak2—and it did not disappoint.
Describe your Otak2 experience in three words.
Accidentally all the
What would you say was the best thing about the internship?
Oh, the work-life balance that I tried to keep, definitely. At aeste, work was hard but meaningful. After work, I made sure to make the most of my summer and spent lots of time being social and having fun. Hard to beat such a great summer experience.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Joseph Leong, very often through bad moves while playing Mafia: “Keep it interesting.” I won’t say “please make bad decisions in life” but I will try to—and try to influence others to—be open to surprises and keep from getting stuck in a boring routine.
What was your biggest challenge during your time in the program?
Taking what is in my head and serving it on a plate. No, not brains…but cooking up a dish that I think up and having it turn out as good-looking and good-tasting as I want it to be. That’s tough.
By looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion? Has this internship made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
Okay, okay…I’m taking this as a technical question. I will interpret this question as one where I can use Bayesian updating to answer. So yes, I’m more likely to come back to Malaysia to work. But if you want a more-complete answer, listen to the BFM podcast on the Otak2 program.
Has your career plan changed since being a part of this internship?
Since being a part of this internship, there has been more of a plan. Unfortunately, these are things that I probably won’t post on a public domain; if I don’t end up following through, nobody will know that I failed and if I do end up, through some measure of fortune and divine intervention, achieving great success in life, people may debate if I had the great foresight of planning it all out or if I were just naturally brilliant that I could fly to the stars by the seat of my pants.
Why did you decide to join Otak2?
Having not stayed in Malaysia for over eight years, I thought it would be a great opportunity to get to know my home country a bit better and spend some time with family while doing something productive. I didn’t really expect it to be the epic journey that it was!
What was your favourite event and why?
The social entrepreneurship event! As I eventually intend to work in the non-profit, non-governmental sector, it’s something I’m already interested in, and it opened my eyes to another aspect of social work that I was initially quite skeptical about. It was also a really well organized presentation and I felt that I really benefited from the networking after.
Were you able to explore your potential talents and passion through Otak2? Why or why not?
Yes, very much so. Being in Royal Selangor and working in the marketing/ communications sector of a corporate company was something I was considering although never had experience in. This internship gave me the opportunity to see what that was like, and I was given the chance to develop and learn skills that I’d never been able to before. I also learned about a whole variety of different sectors and this really broadened my view on my future career choice. Although I haven’t yet decided in certain terms on the path I want to take, I definitely feel more comforted knowing that there are so many avenues of choice for me to take.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
I received a lot of seriously good advice, but I think one that stuck was Anand’s advice to go into the social sector and not put it off after a corporate career because it tends to not work out. I interpreted it more of as going ahead and putting what you want to do first over money-making which I definitely agree with.
Were you ever challenged to reconsider your opinions and views, either during one of the program events, or by your fellow interns or the Otak2 founders? Explain.
Definitely. Through the program I met quite a number of individuals whose views varied vastly from mine on a whole range of subjects. Although I still may not agree with a lot of views presented, we were given so many platforms (both structured and informal) to discuss these views that I feel like I’ve definitely grown in range of perspective on topics like feminism, the economy, government and personal values. Also, having lived in Singapore for the majority of my teenage years, I never really got to take the temperature of students my age in Malaysia and it was a truly amazing experience to discover the extent of passion and the general want to change Malaysian society for the better. It’s not something you see often in Singaporean youth and it was really inspiring.
Use one word or phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months. OR If you could choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Can I pick more than one? I’m going to come up with a small playlist here.
1. We are Gonna Be Friends, Bree Sharp (White Stripes cover)
Great song that kind of describes how we all grew together during the program and forged really great friendships, even though when we started none of knew what we were getting into, if any of us would get along, or if we’d enjoy ourselves!
2. Free Energy – Dream City
Because we don’t know where we’re going to end up, but we all will eventually. I think a lot of us (me, especially) were searching for a bit of direction and I think this program just kind of reaffirmed some of my choices. It gave me a lot more to think about, but also made me feel like not knowing where I’ll be in 5 years isn’t necessarily a bad thing because there are so many opportunities out there.
3. Something Good Can Work – Two Door Cinema Club
4. Our Last Summer – Amanda Seyfried, Pierce Brosnan, Colin Firth & Stellan Skarsgaard
Cheesy as hell, but it was a great summer, right?
5. I Gotta Feeling – Black Eyed Peas
Self-explanatory! And yes, it applies to both company event nights and YMCA fun nights.
Have your career plans changed since Otak2? How and why?
Yes, for the first time in my life am considering coming back to Malaysia to work. When I was younger it was all about trying to get out of Malaysia to find a better education and eventually, job or career. This whole program has really opened my eyes up to the fact that ‘better’ doesn’t have to mean more efficient, organized or better-paying. I think I really saw Malaysia for how it really is in all its varied, disorganized color as well as the good and bad of it, but rather than wanting to get away from it, you get sucked into the infectious change-making desire everyone else seems to have.
If the company in which you interned was in a field unrelated to your course of study, how did you feel about this difference? Were you able to transfer skills from your academic background to your workplace?
Definitely! As I study Politics, Marketing/Communications had not much to do it with in the surface but I had to apply writing, critical thinking and presentation skills that I developed in school to my work. It was a pretty interesting change that I really did enjoy and I’ve definitely grown a lot thanks to it.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
Perhaps the mentorship aspect could be developed further and given a more structured program. Other than that, no!
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Just give in to the whole Otak2 madness, it eventually sucks you completely in anyway! Don’t be afraid to participate and make friends because you’ll regret not doing it.
Congratulations on making it through the program. What’s next for you?
Other than the obvious returning to school, hopefully a great deal of travelling and another great year!
Where did you intern at and what was your role?
BCG, developing strategy for a med-tech cluster [conducting research, making slides]
Use five words to describe your internship at the company.
FUN, INSPIRING, DYNAMIC, HARD WORK (if you count this as one word), EYE OPENING (this too)
Do you see a future for yourself in the industry that you’ve interned in and why?
Possibly. Work is challenging and interesting.
Has the programme changed you in anyways and if yes, how?
Changed my view about working and living in Malaysia and about the future of Malaysia. With more ‘Otakids’ “invading” Malaysia’s workspace at every level, I’ve no doubt about Malaysia being able to continue growing.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
Being almost banned from meeting a client because my skirt was “too short” – on my second day of work!
Best event or hangout moment and why?
Royal Selangor jelly making session; we laughed the loudest and the hardest.
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today) and have you overcome that?
I hate being taken out of my comfort zone. But in this program and at work, I’ve been constantly challenged to speak out, to mingle, to take charge, to lead, I wouldn’t say I like being out of my comfort zone but I’m more willing to venture and to explore now.
What is your biggest take away from the programme?
I should never let others define me.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Here in my home; a reflection of diversity, unity and hope, what Otak2 stands for.
Use a phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Awesome nawesome
Amongst your mentor/Otak2 founders/colleagues, who have you learned the most from and why?
Jun Chen, a colleague. His professionalism in work, his ability to communicate well, and his readiness to teach are admirable. He never fails to know how to react and treat a person in every situation. Being so smart and well-rounded, he remains humble and down-to-earth. Admirable!
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
Hooi Ling from MyTeksi. Make the best decision you can make at every point of your life. Thus, no regrets.
Has your career plan changed since being a part of this internship?
A little. Thinking more broadly about options available to me now. No confining myself to just a few options.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
NO. I’m ready to change my mindset about certain things though.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Treasure every single moment from the beginning. Time passes too quickly!
How were you before Otak2 and how has the programme changed you?
Before joining the programme, I was a person with no direction. I had no idea what I wanted to do after I graduated from college (I still have no idea what I want to do) and I did not know what kind of job opportunities that were available back home in Malaysia. This programme has opened my eyes to various job opportunities across the corporate sector, NGOs, civil service, etc. Now, my opinion on the Malaysian job scene has changed and I have a better understanding of the work environment/culture in Kuala Lumpur.
Tell me about one of your most embarrassing/eventful moments in Otak2.
Speaking Tamil with the Indians at the Esso Station next to YMCA, trying to convince them to give me money [for the fund-raising challenge we were participating in]. Let’s just say my Tamil is very ‘karat’.
Did the programme meet your expectations? Explain why or why not?
I did not have any expectations at all for the programme in all honesty. I never thought that the Otak2 programme (corporate events, dinners, discussions, chilling events) itself would turn out to be more important and meaningful than the internship during the day. So, it definitely smashed my non-existent expectations.
Name one of your regrets throughout Otak2 and what have you done to make yourself feel better?
I guess one of my regrets is that I did not really engage and network enough with the distinguished speakers who spoke at our Otak2 events (partly because I would always show up late to events, as I had to commute from LCCT to the events), but the fellow Otak2 interns would usually bring me back to speed with the discussions that took place at the events, and I would live vicariously through them.
How did your mentor/Otak2 founders inspire you to be a better person?
They provided me the platform to make informed decisions about my future. They were very honest when describing certain career paths and its consequences on one’s life and I feel that I am now aware of the pros and cons of certain careers and I will now be able to make a decision that better suits my interests, while being aware of the good or bad consequences of that decision.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life and what was the advice?
“Do whatever that makes you happy and don’t be shy to admit the reasons behind making that decision, however selfish and self-centered that reason may be” – Anand.
Best event or hangout moment and why?
Best event: Mafia in one of the rooms at YMCA.
Why: Joyce’s reaction when she found out that I was pretending to be the spy.
We have 1 more week before we officially wrap up, so how are you planning to make an impact before it’s over?
Interact more with all the interns, as this group of interns is truly a group of smart, intellectual, and enterprising students that will definitely go far in life. Each individual is uniquely different and through our conversations and interactions, I hope that I have impacted every individual in some way, shape or form.
Use one word or one phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Blimey!
What is your biggest challenge (It could be from the moment you got accepted into Otak2 until today)?
Spending almost three hours every day commuting to LCCT and back, which caused me to miss a good chunk of most of the events on weeknights.
If you’re allowed to choose a theme song for Otak2, what would it be and why?
Eminem – Lose yourself.
Looking at the important people we’ve met so far and learning from a wide variety of industries, did you manage to explore your potential talents or passion?
I have definitely gained insights into certain industries that I would never have gotten otherwise. I am still in the process of deciding for myself which career path to follow but I can confidently say that the Otak2 corporate events have had an effect on my decision-making process.
Are you ready to change the world? If yes, what’s your next step?
No, not yet, but definitely somewhere down the line in the not too distant future, I see myself doing my part in order to make the world a better place.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Definitely join the programme if you are interested in pursuing a career in Malaysia! This programme shows you all the career and job opportunities available right home in Malaysia, and even if you are interested in working in another country, the network that you gain through this event is just tremendous and will definitely help you out in one way or another, wherever you may be.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
Common housing (one big house for all the interns) throughout the programme.
Tell me a little bit about yourself! (School, major, interning where and what you do, career path planned)
I’m reading Law at University of Reading, UK. I interned at BFM 89.9 – The Business Radio Station and I was assigned a project to consolidate information on different types of funding for start-up/growth businesses.
Career path planned?
Well I can definitely say that I’m not 100% set on pursuing law as a profession, so I’m definitely keeping my options opened. I’ve recently considered investment banking!
Has this internship forwarded/altered your career plans in anyway? If so, how?
Actually, yes. I grew up having had and expressed enthusiastic interest in the media industry. So I sought to pursue an internship that would give me an experience and feel of what it’s like to work in this environment. I realised along the way that as exciting as the media sector may seem, it may not suit my needs and desires of an ideal working environment. But like I mentioned previously, I’ll keep my options open for now
Did the program meet your expectations? Why/why not?
It did. In fact it over-met my expectations which I must admit overwhelmed me along the way because of the constant corporate events we were attending but at the same time it opened up my eyes and mind to what life in the working world would be like and it has definitely made me realise that the working world is much more serious and challenging than I had previously imagined.
What was one piece of advice that really stuck with you from someone in the program/someone you met during the program?
From my very own boss, the MD of BFM – he told me to always put my first foot forward. In introducing myself, in approaching people for help, in seeking opportunity and in dealing with challenging issues of compromise, disagreements and etc. He conveyed the idea that one must always make the effort to outshine and not wait for an opportunity to shine him.
Favourite and least favourite event and why?
I won’t name them but I must admit, mere presentations of the company in general or what they do disinterested me along the way because I am more of a hands-on person so I preferred activity based events rather than those that simply had us sitting and looking at PowerPoint slides.
Has this program changed you in anyway and how/why?
It has definitely changed my perception on the working world and particular industries that I have been exposed to. It has given me a taste of what people in the working world are like and what they expect from young future employees like us.
Describe your internship experience in three adjectives!
Laid back, FOOD-APLENTY, routine-based.
What was the most memorable part of the internship for you?
Honestly, it was all those bonding sessions over eating at the pantry!
How would you change this program for the better?
More interaction with our mentors and having them present at some of the corporate sessions (especially for those whose jobs are relevant to the industry)
More exciting events?
Name one of your regrets during the program?
Having not attended all of the events. I missed some due to family/other personal commitments and it’s when I did that I missed out on some awesome memorable events. So bummed I did!
Any advice for future Otaks?
DON’T MISS the events! Try to attend all, no matter how boring it may be or seem. At the end of the day, you have your bunch of Otak-ian buddies there with you and sometimes it’s the unexpected moments and experiences you share with them that matter.
Why did you decide to join Otak2?
Great corporate partners and events planned…through which I would get to know more people..
What was your favorite event and why?
VoC; I experienced and understood how the children felt by putting myself in their shoes and acting the scenario out during the event.
Were you able to explore your potential talents and passion through Otak2? Why or why not?
Yes, the exposure to various industries enabled me to give serious thought to which industries I am passionate about.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
There isn’t one specific person, but in general my team during Talent2 event. Most of us agreed that we need to have faith in ourselves and just take the first step.
Use one word or phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Fun!
Have your career plans changed since Otak2? How and why?
Yes, I’m now considering the corporate world as the first step of my career path. It is exciting to have faith in a company’s vision and to see it grow over time.
If the company in which you interned was in a field unrelated to your course of study, how did you feel about this difference? Were you able to transfer skills from your academic background to your workplace?
It is always great to learn new and cool stuff. I find some of the skills from my academic background are useful and applicable to projects that I was working on.
Has Otak2 made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
I’ve always wanted to go back to work in Malaysia
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
Great job! I don’t really have any other suggestions.
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
Just have fun lahhhh!
Congratulations on making it through the program. What’s next for you?
Enjoying my senior year life.
Why did you decide to join Otak2?
I thought it was a good opportunity to do something productive in summer.
What was your favourite event and why?
The start-up event was my favourite. I just liked the entire atmosphere of the event and the energy entrepreneurs exude. It also gave me a good insight on the start-up scene in Malaysia.
Were you able to explore your potential talents and passion through Otak2? Why or why not?
In terms of potential talent, I would say yes. Several psychological tests and career advising have indicated that human resources (which my internship was based on) was one of my strengths. In terms of passion, I don’t know. I have too many mixed thoughts and feelings about what I want to do.
Name 1 person you have met during the Otak2 events whose advice you can apply in life. What was the advice?
My Otak2 mentor gave me a horrid depiction of an accountant’s early career. I am definitely taking her advice.
Were you ever challenged to reconsider your opinions and views, either during one of the program events, or by your fellow interns or the Otak2 founders? Explain.
The Voice of the Children, and Malaysian Community & Education Foundation event has shown me that the illegal immigrant problem in Malaysia is not as simple as I have perceived it to be.
Use one word or phrase to describe what you have experienced for the past 2 months.
Caffeine relapse.
Have your career plans changed since Otak2? How and why?
Before Otak2, I only had a general idea of the paths I want to take. Now, I have more paths to consider. I think that’s a good thing.
If the company in which you interned was in a field unrelated to your course of study, how did you feel about this difference? Were you able to transfer skills from your academic background to your workplace?
The closest things that I have learned so far that are related to human resources are basic management theories. I didn’t think that the lack of knowledge impeded me in my work. In fact, it felt great learning about things that I will probably come across in my studies, or in my future career.
Has Otak2 made you more likely to come back to Malaysia to work?
Yes.
Any suggestions on how Otak2 can improve for next year?
I can’t think of any serious improvements, but how about a paintball event (organizers/mentors vs. interns)?
What’s your shout out to future Otak2 interns?
When in awkward situations, “keep calm and carry on.”
Congratulations on making it through the program. What’s next for you?
Thank you, but I don’t really know. We’ll see.
Tell me a little bit about yourself! (School, major, interning where and what you do, career path planned)
I just graduated from University of Virginia, Charlottesville (UVA). In UVA, I was in the Mcintire School of Commerce, so my degree is in commerce with concentrations in finance and accounting. With Otak-Otak, I interned with Popteevee which is an online-based media company for a month. Beyond Popteevee, I have also done some work for radio and a publishing company because of my bosses’ involvement in them. Right now, my goal is to find a job that would provide me the learning that would prepare me well for perhaps a future start-up.
Has this internship forwarded/altered your career plans in anyway? If so, how?
I wouldn’t say Otak-Otak has altered my career plans entirely but it has definitely given a wider perspective to possibilities out there in Malaysia. One thing is for sure, going through the otak-otak program has given me a deeper understanding of what I want and what I aspire to be.
Did the program meet your expectations? Why/why not?
The program definitely has far exceeded my expectations. The quality of the people, the myriad of activities, and the relevant conversations we always have.
What was one piece of advice that really stuck with you from someone in the program/someone you met during the program?
Apply an international ruler as your benchmark, not a local one. (Kala Sundram, Maxis Talent Management Head)
Favourite and least favourite event and why?
Favourite: Shipping TCTL and Royal Selangor Visit
Least Favourite: Accenture
Describe your internship experience in three adjectives!
Diverse. Creative. Crazy.
What was the most memorable part of the intership for you?
Getting a Obedient Wives Club member on Radio with Marina Mahathir
How would you change this program for the better?
I wouldn’t change anything about the program but I would like to help companies to sell themselves better to Gen-Ys.
Name one of your regrets during the program?
Not spending enough time hanging out at YMCA.
Any advice for future Otak-Otakians?
Take the time to meet new people and explore the opportunities for you out there!
Charis is a Biochemistry student at Brown University, Providence. She interned at Royal Selangor under the Otak2 programme, working in the E-Commerce as well as Product Design departments.
The evening began with a presentation by the CEO of MindValley centered around the perks and working benefits at the small online media and publishing company whose aim is, as he put it, to ignore the brain drain problem by attracting foreigners to come and work in Malaysia with an attractive remuneration package and work location.
I found myself more compelled by the start-up panelists themselves – Shawn Tan of Aeste (pronounced ‘S’-‘T’), Prakash from PremiumRE, and Wei Chuan and Hooi Ling from MyTaxi. They seemed genuinely passionate about and invested in the products that each of them were working on – engineering microchips, sustainable fuel from palm oil waste, and technology to improve the taxi-taking experience.
Diversity
While two out of the three start-ups were directly technology-related (and the third dealt with some degree of engineering and science), not all of the panelists came from solely technical backgrounds. Shaun had been putting his entrepreneurial cap on since high school; Wei Chuan and Hooi Ling both worked at McKinsey & Co before. And they noted the need for startups to have people with diverse skills – both the ‘builders’ and the ‘sellers’ are crucial for success. One cannot sell a non-existent product; a good product if not marketed well will still not sell.
Choices
What compels them to do the work they do, to leave their jobs at what would be considered successful companies – McKinsey, Sime Darby – and commit to the arguably more strenuous and demanding environment of a startup?
For some it was the ability to claim ownership of the work that they individually do. Prakash illustrated this with an anecdote, paraphrased here: “Would you rather say that you designed a single lamp post in an entire facility of a large company, or that you were involved in every stage of a product’s conception, production, and marketing?”
Others opined that it was the chance to give back to society by solving problems that they had identified. MyTaxi intern Joseph Leong added that he had learnt much more in such a short span of time simply by interning at a startup instead of a larger, more conventional company.
As the evening drew on, Otak2 organizers Joyce and Anand jumped into the fray, sharing their personal opinions on the topics that were being brought up, and asking questions to provoke further discussion. They talked about the turning points at which they made their decisions to return to Malaysia, and the reasons for their choices.
The interns in turn brought up reasons for why they would or would not return to the country in the future, for specified lengths of time; whether they thought that that was the only way in which they could contribute to the country; and whether they envisioned themselves in start-up environments.
A lively discussion ensued, and the event ended long after it was projected to, after which interns, panelists, and organizers still engaged in conversation.
Advice
The panelists had plenty to offer in the way of career advice for the interns:
“Make the best decision for yourself in that point in time.”
“Don’t let anyone guilt you into doing anything.”
“Healthy cynicism is important.”
“You should have an appetite for risks.”
Regarding intellectual property and the value of ideas:
“Safeguard yourself.”
“Ideas mean nothing if you can’t develop them into working, viable products.”
Many of them stressed the importance of a good support network to keep one’s self grounded yet reminded of one’s ideals and goals.
Reflections
I’d like to think, at least, of myself as a creator. Many of the things that were said that night resonated with me, and I can say that if I ever choose a career path which is predominantly based on personal freelance work or work at small, startup-style organizations, this panel had a large part in influencing me.
Peter is an Electrical & Electronics Engineering student at Imperial College, London. Under the Otak2 Internship Programme, he interned at Maxis Communications Bhd, working in Network Engineering & Operations and Data Core Network Planning & Design. Originally written for his fellow interns, this piece is his reflection on his time in the programme.
The Otak2 journey has almost come to an end. But the end of this story signals the beginning of another 41 journeys, with each one of us carrying a beautiful and unforgettable memory back to the place before we met one another.
As we return to our homes and respective colleges, we know that we have woven a wonderful summer with people we never expected to meet.
I remember, when I was told that I would have to stay at YMCA for 6 consecutive weekends, I thought that it would be troublesome because I had to pack and unpack my clothes for just 2 nights.
I remember telling myself that I would focus only on my internship experience, that I should not care too much about the non-work events and activities.
Things changed.
As the days went by, meeting up with corporate figures was not the only thing that was important to us – we began to look forward to meeting up with the other Otakians at the corporate events, to the fellowship and thought-provoking discussions that ensued and continued long after the sessions.
During our free time, we organized clubbing, movie, and sports outings in smaller groups. However, these did not divide the cohort, but gave us a chance to better understand and learn about each other in a more intimate setting. We embraced our differences, which bonded us together even more. We played laser tag and paintball together, had countless rounds of mafia, went to the Dreamgirls musical, attended a book launch, and stayed up late debating issues over teh ais and roti tisu at nearby mamaks. Skype sessions and our Facebook group helped us stay connected with one another during the weekdays.
Of course, we did not foresee all of that happening at the beginning of the programme. But as always, we will only be able to appreciate the path we took when we look back, when we start connecting all the dots together into a memorable journey.
As Otak2 draws to an end, some of us are looking for the rewind button, while many of us cannot believe that happy times have simply zoomed past under our own noses. Some are even proposing that we stay additional nights at YMCA – for the company and camaraderie we’ve come love and appreciate. But at the same time I am smiling through the tears. Because we know that we can’t do much, we will treasure the time we have left even more.
From being frustrated at having to pack for every weekend, to getting excited about doing so: that’s how far I’ve come.
Otak-Otak @ YMCA = 6 weekends of fun moments, 2 nights of the weekly frustration in packing, and a memory to last a lifetime.
To draw an analogy to our favourite activity: our time in this programme is just like a game of mafia, the difference being that for this ‘round’, we won’t have a doctor to heal us and give us ‘a happy day’. Everyone will be leaving sooner or later. Still, just like any mafia game, the mafias and the civilians will be friends after the game. And so will we.
As we continue chasing our dreams in different parts of the world, we’ll remember our meaningful and fun summer together in our home country.
Bon voyage. Godspeed in your pursuits, everyone.
